While they may in fact turn out to be back at square 1, there's no new quotes in this article to suggest this that weren't already in articles at the beginning of the week, are there?FLYLine4LIFE said:
This is all just part of the IMPASSE dance .. You can't be at Impasse if you have a clean slate and are starting over ..nyrmessier011 said:Makes me sick hearing this, both sides should at least try to lie to us and say that we have made progress over the last six months and though all proposals are off the table, each side has learned a greatly from eachother and it will help the process. Stop making it like i've wasted my time since September.
It's a fresh start.copperandblue said:It flies in the face of logic to say that they are square one. This is just the media's interpretation.
Square one was when for 5 months the bantering was Cap, No Cap, Cap, No Cap....
They may be starting at the beginning in terms of negotiating the limits/conditions but atleast they are talking similar framework now.
That was the biggest step in this whole fiasco.
Unless the PA drops a bomb and says they pulled their acceptance of a capped system off the table, they are much further ahead than square one.
The Messenger said:It's a fresh start.
''Everybody approaches a restart of discussions with the perspective that we are back at square one,'' NHLPA senior director Ted Saskin said in an e-mail Thursday, adding that it might be time to look at ''new approaches and concepts for each side.''
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=117970&hubName=nhl
''Everybody approaches a restart of discussions with the perspective that we are back at square one,'' NHLPA senior director Ted Saskin said in an e-mail Thursday, adding that it might be time to look at ''new approaches and concepts for each side.''
''Having said that, obviously a lot has been discussed and hopefully learned from over the last few years in terms of what works and doesn't work for each side.''
I am with youDrury_Sakic said:Am I the only one who actually thinks that this is actually a good thing?
Clearly, even the owners last proposal was a non-starter for the PA for whatever reason, so I guess they wanted to start over.
Looking at this from some new angles might help.
Yes I agree with you. They have to come to the table with a different mind set. First of all both sides have to stop all the rhetorics and resolve this mess and prepare for next season. God knows they have a lot work in front of them.Drury_Sakic said:Am I the only one who actually thinks that this is actually a good thing?
Clearly, even the owners last proposal was a non-starter for the PA for whatever reason, so I guess they wanted to start over.
Looking at this from some new angles might help.
Drury_Sakic said:Am I the only one who actually thinks that this is actually a good thing?
Clearly, even the owners last proposal was a non-starter for the PA for whatever reason, so I guess they wanted to start over.
Looking at this from some new angles might help.
Makes me sick hearing this, both sides should at least try to lie to us and say that we have made progress over the last six months and though all proposals are off the table, each side has learned a greatly from eachother and it will help the process.
JWI19 said:I agree with you. Hammer out all the little things then deal with a cap number.
They need to follow the NBA who's PA and Owners are meeting three times a week until a deal gets done.
pei fan said:By fresh start I think the pa means cap not on the table.
For the NHL means linkage now neccessary.
futurcorerock said:Fresh start is good - would you like them back at the table bickering over numbers and rights than introducing fresh, new concepts which should be the cornerstone of any joint-ventured CBA?
So you're at the meetings?tantalum said:I don't see many fresh, new concepts. I see linkage and nothing but linkage from the league and wait nothing but wait from the players side.
The Fan 590 reports that the meeting started around noon EST. That's all so far.Grandpabuzz said:Any news coming from this?