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  1. Bruwinz37

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    When are the compensation picks for pre-lockout FA losses awarded?
     
  2. Good Question.
    Hull? Hasek?
     
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    Sometime between now and the draft. They usually come out a couple days before, I think, so probably tomorrow.
     
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    I've heard that the Oilers will recieve a 3rd for the loss of Nedved even though the Oilers declined his 1 year $5 million option.
     
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    philly won't get much

    does anyone know if/what we will get for recchi
     
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    It's an extremely complicated system which is broken down into percentiles. The top tier percentiles (1-5, 6-10) garner picks from 16-30, 31-45 etc. The salary the player signs for as a UFA, the average salary that player maintained during the two years prior to his UFA signing and his production level help to put the player into a points system which is then turned into a league-wide percentile scale.

    I'd expect to see Philly with a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick. With that said, however, it could all be messed up with the old salaries reflecting on the new system scale (although I'm sure they took care of that somewhere in that 600 pages).
     
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    2003 entry draft: http://espn.go.com/nhl/draft2003/s/round2.html

    Here's a rough gauge of what to expect:

    2nd round
    Robert Lang - 55th pick - 25 mil for 5 years
    Theo Fleury - 66th pick - 4 mil for 1 year

    3rd round
    Mike Richter - 72nd pick - 4 mil for 1 year
    Adam Oates - 85th pick - 3.5 mil for 1 year
    Scott Young - 88th pick - 6.9 mil for 2 years

    4th round
    Luke Richardson - 108th pick - 11 mil for 4 years
    Andrew Cassells - 111th pick - 11.8 mil for 4 years (Richardson made more in the first year, so that might explain why he got the higher compensatory pick)
    Richard Smehlik - 114th pick - 2.75 mil for 1 year
    Byron Dafoe - 118th pick - 5 mil for 2 years
    Tie Domi - 133rd pick - 5.8 mil for 3 years

    5th round
    Martin Gelinas - 137th pick - 5.9 for 3 years (Domi made more in the first year)
     
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    Keep in mind that if you lost a free agent, but signed a comparable one for about the same money, you probably won't get a pick. Case in point, the Devils lost Joe Nieuwendyk but signed Igor Larionov, and did not receive a pick for Nieuwendyk.

    Theoretical 2004-05 salaries in parenthesis:

    Boston -
    RW Mike Knuble (2.0), C Michael Nylander (2.9), D Sean O'Donnell (1.7), C Brian Rolston (3.2)

    Going off the old standard, the B's might expect to get a very late 3rd rounder for Brian Rolston, a high 4th rounder for Michael Nylander, and a late 4th/high 5th for Knuble and O'Donnell.

    Calgary -
    C Craig Conroy (3.15) - Same as Rolston, late 3rd/high 4th.

    Carolina -
    D Sean Hill (2.0) - 4th

    Dallas -
    D Richard Matvichuk (2.2) - 4th

    Detroit -
    RW Brett Hull (2.25) - 4th
    G Dominik Hasek (2.0) - 4th

    Edmonton -
    C Petr Nedved (2.7) - high 4th

    Philadelphia -
    RW Mark Recchi (might not get pick if Knuble/Stevenson are considered replacements) (3.0) - low 3rd/high 4th

    San Jose -
    C Vincent Damphousse (2.0) - 4th
    C Mike Ricci (1.5) - 5th

    Tampa Bay -
    D Jassen Cullimore (2.3) - 4th
     
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    Anyone have a clue how Kariya and sellane will play out for the Avs?

    always good to have more bullets in the gun.
     
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    Kariya was group V, and teams don't get compensation for group V players. And both will sign after the draft, so the Avs wouldn't receive any compensatory picks for the 2005 draft. Most likely, they wouldn't receive a 2006 compensatory pick for Selanne either.
     
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    Ok thanks
     
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    Probably tomorrow.

    They had to wait until the 03 picks deadline passed, because some teams will/would have received comp picks for not signing 03 first rounders.
     
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    Not to too my own horn, but I was pretty close =)

    Pick 106 - assigned to Boston for loss of Group III free agent Brian Rolston.
    Pick 111 - assigned to Calgary for loss of Group III free agent Craig Conroy.
    Pick 118 - assigned to Boston for loss of Group III free agent Michael Nylander.
    Pick 120 - assigned to Edmonton for loss of Group III free agent Petr Nedved.
    Pick 132 - assigned to Detroit for loss of Group III free agent Dominik Hasek.
    Pick 133 - assigned to Tampa Bay for loss of Group III free agent Jassen Cullimore.
    Pick 137 - assigned to Detroit for loss of Group III free agent Brett Hull.
    Pick 140 - assigned to San Jose for loss of Group III free agent Vincent Damphousse.
    Pick 145 - assigned to Carolina for loss of Group III free agent Sean Hill.
    Pick 146 - assigned to Dallas for loss of Group III free agent Richard Matvichuk.
    Pick 149 - assigned to San Jose for loss of Group III free agent Mike Ricci.
    Pick 171 - assigned to St. Louis for loss of Group III free agent Scott Mellanby.
    Pick 179 - assigned to Calgary for loss of Group III free agent Kryzstof Oliwa.
    Pick 196 - assigned to NY Islanders for loss of Group III free agent Alexander Karpovtsev.
    Pick 226 - assigned to Los Angeles for the loss of a draft pick (acquired via trade) as a result of the shortening of the Entry Draft from nine to seven rounds.
    Pick 227 - assigned to Buffalo for the loss of a draft pick (acquired via trade) as a result of the shortening of the Entry Draft from nine to seven rounds.
    Pick 228 - assigned to Toronto for loss of Group III free agent Tom Fitzgerald.
    Pick 229 - assigned to Montreal for loss of Group III free agent Darren Langdon.
    Pick 230 - assigned to Nashville for loss of Group III free agent Wade Flaherty.
     
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    Is Wade Flaherty really worth a compensatory pick?
     
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    As for Flaherty........that's just how their secret magical formula works.
     
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    bruins got no picks for knuble or odonnell...did the league cut off at two per team??
     
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    I think they do limit it to 2 per team.
     
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