Combined point totals of NHL teams

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  1. humboldt

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    Some say the draft order may be determined by the combined records of all the teams over the past 3 years. I decided to add them up and see what that order would look like. It seems fair.

    Combined point totals for the past 3 seasons:
    Detroit - 335
    Ottowa - 309
    Philadelphia - 305
    Colorado - 304
    New Jersey - 303
    Toronto - 301
    Vancouver - 299
    Dallas - 298
    Boston - 292
    St Louis - 288
    San Jose - 276
    Edmonton - 273
    NY Islanders - 270
    Tampa BAy - 268
    Montreal - 257
    Los Angeles - 254
    Minnesota - 251
    Calgary - 248
    Phoeniz - 241
    Anaheim - 240
    Buffalo - 239
    Washington - 236
    Chicago - 234
    Nashville - 233
    Carolina - 228
    NY Rangers - 227
    Atlanta - 206
    Florida - 205
    Pittsburgh - 192
    Columbus - 188
     
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    If they use a system like this to decide the draft order, maybe they should also put the last 3 cup winners as the last 3 teams to select in round one... Tampa would get the last selection.
     
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    Yeah - I hadn't noticed that. Well, my Oilers would pick after the Stanley Cup Champions, and Stanley Cup finlists... so I would have to say the system is not ideal.
     
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    That system doesn't take into account teams on the rise such or on the decline. It's a pretty dumb way of doing things.
     
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    Thanks for taking the time to compile the list.
     
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    That was my opinion on this also, except i thought the system should be taken into account for the stanley cups winners between them. Tampa would get the 28th.
     
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    ohh snap, even expansion teams do better then the penguins :biglaugh:

    i think they should do maybe a ufa draft and an entry draft, since there will be a ton of good ufa's out there after this year.. since the bad teams need help now, they would get early picks in the ufa draft and late picks for the entry draft, and the reverse for the stronger teams who dont really need the help right now :yo:
     
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    Argh, stuck in the middle. Really this isn't an ideal way of doing a draft, I say just combine the draft classes.
     
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    I didn't imagine Boston having been that good... It seems I've underrated them ;)
     
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    The Bruins have always been good in the season but cant preform in the playoffs.

    I really wont mind that system
     
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    I'd love that system as a Preds fan. The chance to be top 7 would be huge because I don't think we would have been near that low if a season had been played.
     
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    Someone also stated that it could be based on points per dollar. So does anyone want to take on the monumental task of figuring out this ratio over the three years? Sorry, I cannot do it, because I have to run.
     
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    What a great thought.. "This doesn't work exclusively for my team, so it won't work" Good stuff man. :help:
     
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    Come of it man... is it not a valid criticism that a team that missed the playoffs would pick after the Stanley Cup Champions? As far as I'm concerned, the idea of this weighting is to give teams that are underperforming a better chance at the best players.

    I was just pointing out that I consider cases like Tampa a major difficiency in this procedure. Can you not understand why I consider this a problem?

    :help: :help:
     
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    Nice list and I like that system but I think they can come up with something better.
     
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    Like using the 2003-4 standings, similar weighted lottery as always? This is a bit :biglaugh: as it just goes to show no matter what is chosen will have 'flaws' and 'warts' to one degree or another. Far better don't you think to choose the one that seems the least pulling a system out of your a$$, true? Last season played, same weighted lottery would eliminate the problem of a Tampa Bay in this system, and also make it pretty damn unlikely that the Caps would get AO AND Crosby (under 15% chance, right?).
     
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    Granted the NHL sees less turnover than the NFL and MLB, there's enough for me to believe that the majority of owners would have issues with using the 01-02 and 02-03 season as weight for the 05 draft.
     
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    There's been a ton of turnover this year due to the "potential" lockout.
     
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    That's what I was getting at. FAs and trades will be abound when a new CBA is signed. If rosters will see major face lifts in comparison to how they finished 03-04, using past years as models is like overkill.
     
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    Not necessarily. Some teams have decided to rebuild instead.
     
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    as in how much the team profits? what does that exactly mean. if you tell me i can try to do it. edit: or salary?
     
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    Points per dollar on each teams salary.
     
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