Post-Game Talk: Columbus Blue Jackets at New York Rangers - March 20

[Machinehead]

It all depends upon who's doing the shouting. On this board, Kreider is considered an elite analytics player. Anyone who puts stock in those numbers will continue to be fans. The eyetest crowd wants production.

*Gestures towards the ice*

 

[bl02]

Discussing what he could bring back in a trade doesn't mean that everyone wanted to trade him lmao.

Agreed. Same goes for Zibby then right?

 

[Edge]

What do we do next year at the center position if both Chytil and Lias are ready? I'm ok with Zibby-Hayes-Chytil-Lias down the middle. Would playing 4th line center be ok for Lias' development?

I would not be the least bit surprised to see Andersson and Chytil taking shifts on the wings and other guys sliding over as well.

I wouldn't count out some of the versatility next year's roster could have.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

If it's akin to that one post in the MLB thread about Gary Sanchez being traded, then sure.

Gary Sanchez is a legit perennial all star player playing a position that is traditionally weak offensively.

Kreider is good, but hes not that level of good.

 

[bl02]

I would not be the least bit surprised to see Andersson and Chytil taking shifts on the wings and other guys sliding over as well.

I wouldn't count out some of the versatility next year's roster could have.

Damn i knew you would say that lol.
I can see that as well. I just would rather have them play center and be our future 1/2 or 2/3 center combination.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Agreed. Same goes for Zibby then right?

100%

 

[bl02]

100%

Great cause I know someone in Montreal who just may be dumb enough to severely overpay to get his number one center.

 

[Machinehead]

Gary Sanchez is a legit perennial all star player playing a position that is traditionally weak offensively.

Kreider is good, but hes not that level of good.

He's not at that level for sure, but are we just talking, or do we actually want him moved?

Hard to tell around here and don't tell me the latter isn't a thing.

 

[Edge]

Damn i knew you would say that lol.
I can see that as well. I just would rather have them play center and be our future 1/2 or 2/3 center combination.

Truth be told, I'm really not concerned with them spending time on the wings at all. Especially at 19 and 20 years of age next season.

I would also caution that it is a VERY real possibility that they spend additional time in the AHL. I know that does little to prevent the ----storm that would occur if it happened, but I can't help myself.

People are spending so much time trying to predict next year's roster, and our contention timeline, and a million other things. The reality is that we are still in March --- we don't know where we're drafting, we don't know who we've drafted, we don't know what other moves are around the corner (and I believe several additional moves are going to happen), and a host of other factors.

Right now, the most interesting part of the Rangers rebuild is where they will pick in the draft. Once we get through that, we'll see where everything else falls into place (or doesn't).

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He's not at that level for sure, but are we just talking, or do we actually want him moved?

Hard to tell around here and don't tell me the latter isn't a thing.

I've seen very few people suggest that they want him moved unless the right deal comes along.

The only guy who I feel 10000000% has to be moved this summer is Zucc.

 

[bl02]

Truth be told, I'm really not concerned with them spending time on the wings at all. Especially at 19 and 20 years of age next season.

I would also caution that it is a VERY real possibility that they spend additional time in the AHL. I know that does little to prevent the ----storm that would occur if it happened, but I can't help myself.

People are spending so much time trying to predict next year's roster, and our contention timeline, and a million other things. The reality is that we are still in March --- we don't know where we're drafting, we don't know who we've drafted, we don't know what other moves are around the corner (and I believe several additional moves are going to happen), and a host of other factors.

Right now, the most interesting part of the Rangers rebuild is where they will pick in the draft. Once we get through that, we'll see where everything else falls into place (or doesn't).

Absolutely. Would not be shocked if one of them is gonna see more time in the AHL to help with their development.

 

[Machinehead]

I've seen very few people suggest that they want him moved unless the right deal comes along.

The only guy who I feel 10000000% has to be moved this summer is Zucc.

Some people -not mentioning any names- who want to suddenly crown Kreider as the only reason for Zibanejad's success, will be trading Kreider for a gumball the next time his shooting percentage goes cold.

Just a few, and maybe my original comment was too sweeping, but that's because the agenda irks me.

 

[NYR]

I like Kreider but my problem with him is consistency.
He has all the tools in the world to absolutely dominate games and be a Corey Perry but instead he's just a 20 goal scorer.

 

[Machinehead]

I like Kreider but my problem with him is consistency.
He has all the tools in the world to absolutely dominate games and be a Corey Perry but instead he's just a 20 goal scorer.

@Go Away Staal Took about a page...

 

[Siddi]

I might be wrong but what I see is one camp using analytics in conjunction with what is happening on the ice whereas one camp refuses to even acknowledge the fact they exist.

 

[Machinehead]

Also, Kreider has been better than Perry for like 3 years.

 

[egelband]

Not a great idea. Wilson, the Caps resident sociopath, would salivate with new star struck guys to concuss away from the play.

 

[Siddi]

Great cause I know someone in Montreal who just may be dumb enough to severely overpay to get his number one center.

Why would we want to trade our 24 year old center who is a PPG when healthy not to mention our best skater this past playoff run?

I honestly dont get it.

 

[NYR]

Also, Kreider has been better than Perry for like 3 years.

OK let me re-phrase since you need to be so literal.
A PRIME Corey Perry.
Is that an unreasonable expectation for Kreider?

 

[Mac n Gs]

I wouldn't be opposed to that conversation.

Something tells me he's going west though.

Dallas and Calgary are just so obvious of a fit. I even think bobbop said we were negotiating Zucc to Calgary and were asking for Rasmus Andersson or Fox. I also wouldn’t be shocked if Gorton already has a deal in place that has the trigger pulled in the offseason

 

[Machinehead]

OK let me re-phrase since you need to be so literal.
A PRIME Corey Perry.
Is that an unreasonable expectation for Kreider?

 

[NYR]

No..It's not if he plays with some consistency lol

 

[Machinehead]

No..It's not if he plays with some consistency lol

He's one of the most consistent players in the league

Putting up points every night is not consistency. It's an internet fantasy.

 

[bl02]

Why would we want to trade our 24 year old center who is a PPG when healthy not to mention our best skater this past playoff run?

I honestly dont get it.

It was said in jest. Again its totally cool to mention trading kreider but not Zibby? His health hasn't been exactly bulletproof and with head injuries many a career have been cut short. Would you get it a bit more if montreal offered you the number 4 or number 5 pick overall?

 

[Siddi]

It was said in jest. Again its totally cool to mention trading kreider but not Zibby? His health hasn't been exactly bulletproof and with head injuries many a career have been cut short. Would you get it a bit more if montreal offered you the number 4 or number 5 pick overall?

I wouldn't trade Kreider either.

With Bergevin everything is possible and I would certainly entertain the idea but honestly, I think I would decline.