I hope not. I like to think that they already have a fair idea of how they want the front office to play out this summer, regardless of whether or not Holland stays. If we get Dahlin, awesome. If we don't, well, we keep going with whoever is in charge. If getting lucky in the lotto radically changes the organizations management plans I would lose some faith in the organization.
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I hope not. I like to think that they already have a fair idea of how they want the front office to play out this summer, regardless of whether or not Holland stays. If we get Dahlin, awesome. If we don't, well, we keep going with whoever is in charge. If getting lucky in the lotto radically changes the organizations management plans I would lose some faith in the organization.
Henkka
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I'm quite sure it would increase tremendously any good hockey people to join us.
Number1RedWingsFan52
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Pretty sure it doesn't hurt, Landing a big fish like Dahlin would be a very good thing for Holland, Wright and Company.
we are not going to "land Dahlin." Hoping for a lottery win as your "plan A" in any area of life or business is dumb. We are going to lose the lottery, draft 5-6 or lower and enjoy the results of this idiotic "tank" movement that so many here seem to cheer for for decades to come. Instead of addressing coaching issues (hiring a better coach who knows how to use the players we have) and drafting smartly to fill the gaps we have, we are pinning our hopes of getting a 17 y/0 kid who will be supposed to solve all our problems. Dream on!...
no, better to pin our hopes on a coach who knows what he is doing when he makes lines and on a systematic filling of holes which we have. Pittsburg did not win two cups in a row just because of Crosby and Malkin. They had system.
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He's going to burn out in Toronto after a couple more years.
Holland loves going back to the well.
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When you're rolling Crosby and Malkin 40 minutes a game down the middle, you're golden.
Having elite, world-class centers is the best way to win a cup
Unfriendly Ghost
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This is literally the only thing in your post that's a good idea.
What you're not getting is that even if you don't get Dahlin, you still get a very good, high upside player in that range. The Wings have almost none of those kind of prospects. Good teams don't just appear. They're drafted, and their cores are drafted early. The Wings need to draft early to build a core.
If you still have DeKeyser on your top pairing, it doesn't matter who your coach is.
Unfriendly Ghost
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They had a system that wouldn't have worked without Crosby and Malkin. But we don't have a Crosby or a Malkin. Not one, and certainly not two. Do you see the problem?
Frk It
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Custance profiled the top Assistant GM's ready for promotion
Top 5 was:
1.) Paul Fenton, Nashville
2.) Julien BriseBois, Tampa Bay
3.) Tom Fitzgerald, Dallas
4.) Bill Guerin, Pittsburgh
5.) Kyle Dubas, Toronto
Would be very happy with either of those first 2.
Top 5 was:
1.) Paul Fenton, Nashville
2.) Julien BriseBois, Tampa Bay
3.) Tom Fitzgerald, Dallas
4.) Bill Guerin, Pittsburgh
5.) Kyle Dubas, Toronto
Would be very happy with either of those first 2.
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Spot on. If I had to name 3 guys today, it would be Fenton, Brisebois, and Shero, and probably in that order.
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Just please don't let it be Draper.
Nothing against him but now more than ever the Red Wings organization needs to hire the best candidate available and not just draw from a pool of former players and employees.
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HIFE
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The possibility of a 1 year deal is such a frustrating thought. Sit on our rear ends waiting for another year just so Holland has something to busy himself with before Seattle? No x-ing way.
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Paul Fenton please, specializes in drafting. Exactly what we need for the rebuild. BriseBois is more a cap guru, which is great and has been a huge problem for us but right now drafting is the number one trait I want in our new gm
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I picture you sitting at a bar drinking whiskey while you typed that
Pavels Dog
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And a new GM is going to do.. what? Sitting and waiting and drafting and developing is pretty much it right now.
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Noone knows what Draper would be like though. He could be the next Yzerman for all anyone knows, I would give him a chance as a fan if he got promoted but wont be mad if its Fenton or Brisebois either
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Mark Hunter should be in there too, he did more than tremendous job in London. And im sure he wants to be GM in NHL too some day, Dubas most likely takes over Louie's job in Toronto.
I dont know if i remember right, but i believe someone said that Hunter doesn't wanna move very from London. Not sure if this true, but Detroit is not far away....
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HIFE
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For one thing I don't want Holland running the ship anymore. A new GM takes over with motivation to implement their vision now, instead of waiting a year twiddling their thumbs. Holland at that point is a lame-duck. If he's staying then stay, if he plans on leaving in a year than the Wings should move forward immediately with a plan. I agree with what was said about waiting on Babcock's decision to stay or go; it was weak and proved a lack of direction.
If the plan is for Draper to be the new GM than go ahead with the promotion now instead of a year later.
HIFE
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I played with him in an alumni event. He partied and laughed it up with the rest of the guys, but you could sense he was holding back. Draper comes across as your average joe but I think he's a lot sharper than he lets on.
Dear lord we are becoming the Oilers.
I do hope we look for someone from the outside. We really need an outsiders perspective/review on this organizations current prospects, scouting team, and future plans. Also an outside GM won't have the attachment to players like a current hire from within person might have.
EDIT: Does anyone remember a quote from Holland years ago about how he wanted to build a team of 20G scorers? Think it was a few years into the cap era but he thought it was going to come down to having lots of depth vs having a few superstars and building around them.
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Hatter of the Beach
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Hmm, Bill Guerin. I wonder if he can bailout Detroit huehuehue.
In all seriousness though, 1,2, and 5 would all make me excited. Don't know enough about Fitzgerald or Guerin
