DInTheB
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Where did you see this. Personally I'm pretty worried about the classic "great owner's son is a terrible owner" syndrome so I wouldn't mind turning the page on the Illitches, but if he sells the team to someone even worse that could spell bad news for the Wings.Ilitch is rumored to be trying to fatten up his sports holdings for sale. While the new arena helps, it being half empty doesn't.
Where did you see this. Personally I'm pretty worried about the classic "great owner's son is a terrible owner" syndrome so I wouldn't mind turning the page on the Illitches, but if he sells the team to someone even worse that could spell bad news for the Wings.
Gilbert?I think he is going to sell them to Gilbert. That is just my opinion though.
If I remember right people wanted Babcock to go and praised blashill. Now Blashill is the worst coach ever.Interesting. Although despite my new username, I'm a little worried about the whole thing. It'll be good if Ilitch fires Holland for poor performance and allows the next guy to rebuild a bit. It'll be terrible if Ilitch fires Holland for missing the playoffs, and then hires somebody under the explicit mandate that they make the playoffs next year.
If I remember right people wanted Babcock to go and praised blashill. Now Blashill is the worst coach ever.
But Babcock being gone didn't help because Holland was still in charge. Holland being let go has to be the right move, because there's nobody else left from that era after him; when everyone else was gone, when only Holland was left, the same bad decision making continued. The next GM might also be a problem, and Chris Ilitch is almost assuredly a major obstacle, but we can be pretty confident Holland going out the door will have been the right move.If I remember right people wanted Babcock to go and praised blashill. Now Blashill is the worst coach ever.
Ship this guy to Seattle already,
should completely kill his chances at the Hall of Fame, building the team from scratch, as he had never done before.
Nobody was 100 percent sure about Blashill as an NHL coach, but he seemed to do well with the developing kids in Grand Rapids and people thought he could put a new message out there for the young players and help them develop better than "tie goes to the veteran" Babcock. The concerns about Babcock aren't immediately erased just because Blashill turned out to be terrible. Just like the concerns about Holland won't be erased if the next guy to run the team does a terrible job.If I remember right people wanted Babcock to go and praised blashill. Now Blashill is the worst coach ever.
But Babcock being gone didn't help because Holland was still in charge. Holland being let go has to be the right move, because there's nobody else left from that era after him; when everyone else was gone, when only Holland was left, the same bad decision making continued. The next GM might also be a problem, and Chris Ilitch is almost assuredly a major obstacle, but we can be pretty confident Holland going out the door will have been the right move.
I am not so sure we have a better replacement.Nobody was 100 percent sure about Blashill as an NHL coach, but he seemed to do well with the developing kids in Grand Rapids and people thought he could put a new message out there for the young players and help them develop better than "tie goes to the veteran" Babcock. The concerns about Babcock aren't immediately erased just because Blashill turned out to be terrible. Just like the concerns about Holland won't be erased if the next guy to run the team does a terrible job.
There's nobody who can be better at being a GM, but there are tons of candidates who will have more progressive ideas about rebuilding. Supposedly Draper is one of them, and he might be next in line.I am not so sure we have a better replacement.
I bash Holland a lot, but I am not sure who can replace him. I have called Holland a useless clown because I think he makes some terrible moves, yet I am not sure we can find someone better.
I think we can give him another year, but after that it might be pointless to give him another chance.
We will se what he does after this season.
I thought it an example of Ken Holland's hubris when he just assumed Blashill was ready to coach at the NHL level.
Babcock should have been fired before his last season if he refused to sign. Instead, Babcock spent the year using Detroit as leverage to get the deal everyone expected him to take.
Worse, when the season was over, Babcock took his sweet time, allowing the pool of NHL coaches to get snapped up while he brought his dog and pony show around the NHL. I guess it didn't matter anyway, because the arrogant Holland thought Blashill was the next coaching superstar.
If Holland goes to Seattle, expect Babcock to follow a few years later.
Nobody was 100 percent sure about Blashill as an NHL coach, but he seemed to do well with the developing kids in Grand Rapids and people thought he could put a new message out there for the young players and help them develop better than "tie goes to the veteran" Babcock. The concerns about Babcock aren't immediately erased just because Blashill turned out to be terrible. Just like the concerns about Holland won't be erased if the next guy to run the team does a terrible job.
Has this approach ever been taken before? Firing a high end coach because they refuse to sign an extension 1 year out?
Serious question, I'm trying to start an argument with you.
I don't know. But I'm not letting one guy hold all the cards.
If he didn't want to commit, I think it would have been a good idea to let him walk early and then interview a bunch of coaches for the job to get right guy,
At the very least, I would have cut ties upon elimination from the playoffs.
It did turn into a bit of a spectacle, and unfortunately it sounded like Blashill was the guy they wanted and they had no interest in anyone else. That entire situation definitely played out very poorly for us.
I thought it made Holland look weak and ineffective.
Now, I already thought he was ineffective.
But the whole thing just made Holland look weak and it didn't reflect well on the franchise, either.
Sometimes, you need to make the decision before indecision makes you.