NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS
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Let me guess. You started watching hockey a year or 2 ago?
Then all assume you were not watching the years Chelios won his 2 Norris trophies. He might have been given the first one because it was "someone elses turn", but his second was well deserved, and makes your statement of him "Never being top 5, or top 10 in all the seasons he played" seem pretty much like someone who never watched hockey back then.No, actually I've been watching hockey since the early 70's. How about you!
Admittedly my statement of him NEVER being a top 5 defenseman may have been made for affect. I simply happen to think that he is somewhat overated. My prior posts give him credit for being a very, very good defenseman. Look, baseball players win gold gloves year after year on reputation. Look at Derek Jeter (and I am a Yankee fan). So let's not pretend there are not politics involved.
I just don't ever remember a time when teams had to have any special game plan when matched up against Chelios. It has always been the "other guys" on his team that were the first concern.
Obviously most of the people here don't share my opinion. But I believe I'm entitled to mine.
Go back to 1970 and aside from Randy Carlyle and Doug Wilson Chris Chelios is the worst defenseman to win the Norris in the last 35 years. He has won multiple Norris trophies based on reputation as much as anything else. Not to say that he has not been a very good defenseman for a lot of years. Great though, I don's think so.
Not even close. Has Chelios ever even been considered one of the top five (or even ten) defenseman in any single season he has ever played.
Not even close. Has Chelios ever even been considered one of the top five (or even ten) defenseman in any single season he has ever played.
I was looking at this post and i honestly do not know how to answer it. straight up, in a 7 game playoff series, there is no doubt i would take stevens at any point of his career over chelios. the guy was just a competitor that never lost. Chelios was perhaps better than stevens in many facits of the game but under NO cercumstances would i chose him over stevens. What stevens did well (defense, positioning, hitting, competitiveness) eclipsed chelios and all of his atributes.
Scott Stevens is a monster. The Guy did it all with sweat & tears. He also laid it out on the ice, did what it took to win a cup.
Was never a fan of Chelios -- Sure he can score but he doesn't bring the same physical aspect SS does.
Didn`t he win 3 Norris trophies compared to Stevens`s how many? Seriously, Stevens was good but Chelios was great.