Checkers III: The Age of Ulf

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Doesn't the AHL get lists of call-up priority in determining All Stars? You don't want to have 2-3 guys slated to play suddenly called up the night before the game (nor would a team want to be unable to recall a player because he's playing).
I'd think the recognition should go to those who deserve it, firstly, then worry about who attends the game afterward.
 

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Plummeting down the standings...lost 6 of the last 7...0 for 6 on the PP with only 3 shots, but about 6 SH shots against. Team was constantly missing open passes with nobody in the way and put 0 effort into getting pucks as they sailed 2" from their feet. Just looked like they were processing everything 2 seconds slow
 

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I was at the game tonight too, and that's about right. Plenty of opportunities or potential opportunities that were all just a bit off. Wish I'd come down during a better time for the Checkers. I will say the Marlies looked a bit sleepy and off for the first couple of periods too.

Hoping the Flames game goes better tomorrow, or my trip down will be a rather big bust after the first two losses.
 

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They did this 2 years ago. And I also remember this was done in the ECHL days before they moved Uptown, 2002 I think when we had that ice storm.

Is the weather actually that bad there or people in the area just aren’t used to it?

I have a coworker on my project right now who just moved up here from Charlotte and he doesn’t seem to be enjoying our weather too much :laugh:
 

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Is the weather actually that bad there or people in the area just aren’t used to it?

I have a coworker on my project right now who just moved up here from Charlotte and he doesn’t seem to be enjoying our weather too much :laugh:

I'm not in Charlotte, but based on what's going on in the Triangle they could probably have played that game on the sheet of ice in the parking lot.

I drove through Ontario after a snowstorm once... didn't feel the slightest bit unsafe. There were trucks every few miles on 401, dropping salt and sweeping away what little had accumulated. My all-weather tires never slipped once. As soon as I crossed the border into Michigan, the risk factors went way up. The roads had obviously been salted at some point, but there were no active drivers out sweeping and re-salting like there were in Ontario. I had to drop my speed by half, and really watch it on the corners. And that was in a place where there's actually a reasonable infrastructure to handle winter weather. Had that taken place in NC, the roads would have been totally impassable for lack of treatment.
 

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I grew up in Michigan and rarely had concerns driving in bad weather, so maybe it was just where you were in Michigan as I know the amount of weather and how they handle it varies greatly across the state. I also lived in NY and in northern New England and it was similar to my experiences in MI. All along the highway there were huge piles of Salt/Sand mixture that were constantly being applied after the plows came through (Don't recall ever seeing brining before the storm when I lived up there). It was pretty common after a storm to see an initial plow come through, followed by a 2nd plow (depending on the amount of snow), followed by Salt/Sand trucks who would repeat as needed if the roads started to get iced up again.

As you said, the infrastructure and the level of road maintenance down here is clearly a big reason, but another reason is the vehicles/tires people own. Where I lived, a lot of people had snow tires, a good chunk had AWD/4WD. I always had a set of Nokian Hakkapeliittas or Bridgestone Blizzaks that I would put on the car around Thanksgiving and leave on until March. Even if people didn't have snow tires, they would shop for all seasons that would do well in the snow.
 
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I'm not in Charlotte, but based on what's going on in the Triangle they could probably have played that game on the sheet of ice in the parking lot.

I drove through Ontario after a snowstorm once... didn't feel the slightest bit unsafe. There were trucks every few miles on 401, dropping salt and sweeping away what little had accumulated. My all-weather tires never slipped once. As soon as I crossed the border into Michigan, the risk factors went way up. The roads had obviously been salted at some point, but there were no active drivers out sweeping and re-salting like there were in Ontario. I had to drop my speed by half, and really watch it on the corners. And that was in a place where there's actually a reasonable infrastructure to handle winter weather. Had that taken place in NC, the roads would have been totally impassable for lack of treatment.

this is the fundamental response to "lol you only got a few inches of snow and it shut down your entire infrastructure." investing in countermeasures to ice down here is like getting flood insurance in arizona.
 

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I grew up in Michigan and rarely had concerns driving in bad weather, so maybe it was just where you were in Michigan as I know the amount of weather and how they handle it varies greatly across the state. I also lived in NY and in northern New England and it was similar to my experiences in MI. All along the highway there were huge piles of Salt/Sand mixture that were constantly being applied after the plows came through (Don't recall ever seeing brining before the storm when I lived up there). It was pretty common after a storm to see an initial plow come through, followed by a 2nd plow (depending on the amount of snow), followed by Salt/Sand trucks who would repeat as needed if the roads started to get iced up again.

As you said, the infrastructure and the level of road maintenance down here is clearly a big reason, but another reason is the vehicles/tires people own. Where I lived, a lot of people had snow tires, a good chunk had AWD/4WD. I always had a set of Nokian Hakkapeliittas or Bridgestone Blizzaks that I would put on the car around Thanksgiving and leave on until March. Even if people didn't have snow tires, they would shop for all seasons that would do well in the snow.

Yeah, when I wrote that post I made a point to go back and add the "all season tires" part because it really does make a contextual difference. I could have driven those Ontario roads on a Vespa and been fine, because of the extensive treatment they were getting, but in Michigan it would have taken some action on my part to have really been safe on hills and corners. In NC snow tires aren't worth the bother... you'll only need them maybe 3 days out of the year, and those 3 days are such an Armageddon that it's not even worth venturing out of your neighborhood. Better to just hunker down and wait it out.
 

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It’s funny reading you guys comment about the roads. The city of Denver doesn’t plow. Seriously. They make a big fuss when the first storm hits in late fall, gonna have all the trucks out and they do for the first storm. Regardless of whether or not it’s any more than an inch. Then it pretty much goes silent. In bad storms they’ll plow the major arteries and generally the highway. That’s it. All the streets people actually live on? Nothing. They have skinny streets too so there will be two tire tracks in the middle of the street with cars parked on both sides so only one car can pass at a time. You have to stop and back out of the street if someone has beaten you halfway down the street the other way.

Generally all snow melts the same day or the next day, we get so much sun. They just don’t bother. Then the big storm hits and the response is.....underwhelming. Once you leave the city, it all changes. I commuted down last year once a day and a half after a huge dump, and the major highway of CO was completely dry and plowed everywhere but the city of Denver, which was so well packed with snow you could’ve skied on it. Hadn’t been touched once. 5 inches.

The biggest highway in the state.
 

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i had 18 inches of snow on my driveway just from the way the snow blew all day yesterday and the lack of sun we get on that side of our house. took FOREVER to shovel

going to eat more bibimbap now if i don't survive the night i want bd58 to have all my gluten products
 

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i had 18 inches of snow on my driveway just from the way the snow blew all day yesterday and the lack of sun we get on that side of our house. took FOREVER to shovel

going to eat more bibimbap now if i don't survive the night i want bd58 to have all my gluten products

My wife shovels. She views it as exercise and I even bought here a snowblower for Christmas when we lived up north.
 
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