Central Scouting NCAA rankings are out

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by Bicycle Repairman, Jan 17, 2005.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Bicycle Repairman

    Bicycle Repairman Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2003
    Messages:
    1,688
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
  2. Fighter

    Fighter Always on the move

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2004
    Messages:
    10,514
    Likes Received:
    119
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Traveller
    Location:
    Trieste, Italy
    On NHL.com you can check the complete CSS midterm ranking.

    As for NA Skaters Brule is 6th!!! Johnson 5th!
    But Bourdon is 4th... :shakehead
     
  3. Fighter

    Fighter Always on the move

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2004
    Messages:
    10,514
    Likes Received:
    119
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Traveller
    Location:
    Trieste, Italy
    Another good one: Bergfors 6th in the European ranking and Anze kopitar (slovenian playing in Sweden) is first!!! :lol :lol: :joker:
     
  4. markov`

    markov` Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,647
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Top 2 in the world
    Home Page:
    IMO it seems obvious that Bertram should be ahead of Skille and Stoa.

    People seems to be overrating the U18 program.
     
  5. PuckFan01

    PuckFan01 Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2002
    Messages:
    674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    Bertram doesn't have the size and strength that the other two have. Stoa and Skille will likely be able to handle the pro game more effectively. Bertram might skate better than those two but he doesn't have an advantage in any other area.
     
  6. markov`

    markov` Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,647
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Top 2 in the world
    Home Page:
    Bertram is playing on a scoring line in one of the best team in the USA. I liked what I saw from him, I've never seen Stoa and Skille but I'd be shocked if they were better than Bertram who reminds me of a poor-man Kariya.
     
  7. Rabid Ranger

    Rabid Ranger 2 is better than one

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    22,619
    Likes Received:
    464
    Trophy Points:
    199
    Occupation:
    Contract manager
    Location:
    Murica

    Well, Skille's stock in particular has been on the rise for quite some time. Not only is he quite a bit bigger than Bertram, but he is just as, if not more skilled.
     
  8. Rabid Ranger

    Rabid Ranger 2 is better than one

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    22,619
    Likes Received:
    464
    Trophy Points:
    199
    Occupation:
    Contract manager
    Location:
    Murica

    How can you say it should be "obvious" if you've never seen Skille or Stoa play? I've caught several Boston College games this year, and despite playing on a scoring line, Bertram hasn't done much for me.
     
  9. montreal

    montreal Go Habs Go

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2002
    Messages:
    34,138
    Likes Received:
    2,194
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Gender:
    Male
    wow, surprised to see Jonathan Matsumoto so low. same for Tom Fritsche and Andrew Cogliano.
     
  10. Oilers Chick

    Oilers Chick Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2002
    Messages:
    5,974
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Philly in April 2014
    Home Page:
    I'm surpised that Sasha Pokulok is ranked so high. Yeah, he's got the size but aside from that I've yet to see anything else about him that really jumps out. (and yes, I've already seen Cornell this season and will see them some more before season's end).

    T. J. Hensick's stock falling as much as it has also suprises me a bit. He hasn't lost a step since last season and IMO still at the top of his game (if memory serves me correctly, he's currently leading the Wolverines in scoring).

    I know this is a bit soon to say but if any of you thought that Minnesota's freshman class was good THIS season, wait until next season! The Gophers freshmen are going to be scary good next season.
     
  11. SpaceGhost79

    SpaceGhost79 Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2002
    Messages:
    209
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Hensick being so low does make you scratch your head when you see some of the names ahead of him. He's leading the Wolverines in scoring again and will most likely be a Hobey Baker finalist as the top college player. He's been averaging about 2 points a game since being bench against Wisconsin at the end of November... just tearing it up. At the same time I guess I shouldn't be shocked since the CSB has the long habit of ranking size over skill, and T.J.'s only 5'9 or 5'10. But it's all an opinion poll, IMO, and when draft day comes around I'm sure he'll be taken a lot higher. If he goes below the 2nd round, someone's going to get a real steal!
     
  12. Meat Wave

    Meat Wave * * *

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2003
    Messages:
    5,368
    Likes Received:
    55
    Trophy Points:
    146
    Location:
    Canada
    I agree. I saw Cornell only once this year and Pokulok didn't catch my eye, not at all. To me, he's just a defensively reliable blueliner with good size and strenght, just like his teammate Ryan O'Byrne...
     
  13. neelynugs

    neelynugs Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    31,381
    Likes Received:
    534
    Trophy Points:
    214
    Location:
    Vote Quimby! (and California)
    here's my question about hensick - some people have questioned his courage, and from what i watched at the WJC, i'd agree. his speed and skills are evident, but is there a willingness to get his nose dirty? granted, i don't see enough of him to make a fair judgment- that's why i turn to OC and some others. so, will hensick take a big hit to make a play? will he drive the net knowing he's gonna get smacked down?
     
  14. CH Wizard

    CH Wizard Guest

    Bertram and Johnson,Cogliano are waaay tooo low.
     
  15. Kovy274Hart

    Kovy274Hart Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2004
    Messages:
    1,679
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    blogger
    Location:
    Shaolin
    Home Page:
    Hensick that low is nuts. But these lists are subjective. Does it really matter anyway considering there won't be a freaking draft :shakehead?
     
  16. Dan

    Dan Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    2,642
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    Sorry if this has already been asked, but does anyone know when the full European rankings will be posted? I'm only seeing 1-26 on the skaters list and nothing for the goaltenders. Thanks
     
  17. pei fan

    pei fan Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2004
    Messages:
    2,536
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Latendresse 67 of NA skaters :eek: .
    Also low:
    Bourret 19
    Zagrapan 27
    Aubin 62
    Cogliano 87
    Syvret 121
    No Lavallee
    No Bosclair
    No Lascek
     
  18. nomorekids

    nomorekids The original, baby

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2003
    Messages:
    33,375
    Likes Received:
    103
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    Home Page:
    it's not uncommon for guys that went undrafted to get completely glazed over the next year.
     
  19. pei fan

    pei fan Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2004
    Messages:
    2,536
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    They do have Syvret at 121.
     
  20. Funkymoses

    Funkymoses Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2002
    Messages:
    840
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Home Page:
    The rankings just suck, basically. Whatever questions there may be about Hensick's "toughness," he won't fall out of the second round. He's at least as good as Cammalleri and is really dominating at Michigan this year. That ranking for him means that the CSB would take him in the 6th round at the earliest if you account for Euros, which is NOT going to happen. Put stock in their ratings at your own risk.
     
  21. VOB

    VOB Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    1,692
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Michigan
    Home Page:
    I highly doubt that Hensick will last until the 6th or even 4th round but he is not a 1st round candidate and it would not surprise me in the least to see him fall out of the 2nd round as well.

    He is a good skater, has good vision and a great release but strength is indeed his downfall. He has been knocked off the puck far too many times for my liking and as it stands for most scouts as well.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"