Speculation: Caps Hockey General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) -- 2017-18 Regular Season Edition

[Jacoby4HOF66]

 

[McVechkin]

lets hope they aren't down playing it. Wouldnt put it past this organization to tell us he will be back... but then he isnt. ha. but this is encouraging.

 

[gogensgo]

I was looking at the historical list of head coaches that have won the Cup and for the vast majority, they seem to all have one common trait. A lot of emotion and fire in their personalities that they apply to refs and their players that turns into positive results. I've always wondered about Barry's calm and non-panic approach he tries to instill in his team and his desire to always look professional but his teams seem to lack a lot of passion and fire especially in key moments. Maybe that personality transfers to the players and their approach on the ice. Have a look at the list and comment if you have other theories as to what does or doesn't work.

Stanley Cup All-time Champions and Finalists | NHL.com - News

 

[Sempiternal]

Would your money be on Kuznetsov playing next week or sitting out all 3 games?

 

[Raikkonen]

If the joint is OK that's the main result. Bone injury doesn't damage the wrist. Joint injury has much longer term to heal and the question if it's 100% after all. So we don't control it either way but a simple fracture is much much better than joint being damaged too.

Trotz's comments sound like Kuzy isn't that much injured. I hope he's ready to play in a week or so.

 

[Sam Spade]

lets hope they aren't down playing it. Wouldnt put it past this organization to tell us he will be back... but then he isnt. ha. but this is encouraging.

I think the Caps have been very forthright with injuries since Trotz got here.

I can't imagine being a Leafs fan with all the bullshit they spit out about injuries.

 

[trick9]

Would your money be on Kuznetsov playing next week or sitting out all 3 games?

I'll be surprised if he plays.

 

[Corby78]

I was looking at the historical list of head coaches that have won the Cup and for the vast majority, they seem to all have one common trait. A lot of emotion and fire in their personalities that they apply to refs and their players that turns into positive results. I've always wondered about Barry's calm and non-panic approach he tries to instill in his team and his desire to always look professional but his teams seem to lack a lot of passion and fire especially in key moments. Maybe that personality transfers to the players and their approach on the ice. Have a look at the list and comment if you have other theories as to what does or doesn't work.

Stanley Cup All-time Champions and Finalists | NHL.com - News

I think there is something to being balanced. If your always on fire, the effect wears away. Tortorella seems to have this problem where guys just get tired of him, and if its constant berating your going to turn it off eventually. On the other hand there are times when you do need to light a fire and get guys going. Hockey is very streaky and emotional, and a good coach will recognize that and use it. Somebody who I think has done a great job of balancing that (at its evident by his record) is Joel Quenneville.

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

 

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its good to see Boyd get a top 9 role, I wasn't expecting that from Trotz.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Would your money be on Kuznetsov playing next week or sitting out all 3 games?

My bet is 3rd game.

 

[Portable Mink]

That seems like long term planning.

maybe not. just first thought.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Flip 19 and 20. Have wanted Ovy w Eller for a while. And I like 65-19-77

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

Trotz sure misses #44:

 

[MrGone]

The last thing I wanted was a built in reason for Kuznetsov to come up small in the playoffs.

 

[twabby]

The last thing I wanted was a built in reason for Kuznetsov to come up small in the playoffs.

You're hopeless. He was one of their strongest performers in 2 out of 3 postseasons he's been a part of (and in the other it can be argued he didn't put up numbers due to poor puck luck) but keep on banging that stupid narrative drum of yours.

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

 

[twabby]

Back in the old days they'd just do lines of coke before the game.

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

Back in the old days they'd just do lines of coke before the game.

Based on what they were doing, saying, whos to say they didn't?

 

[MrGone]

You're hopeless. He was one of their strongest performers in 2 out of 3 postseasons he's been a part of (and in the other it can be argued he didn't put up numbers due to poor puck luck) but keep on banging that stupid narrative drum of yours.

Your hero's point per game drops way off in the playoffs. Being a half point per game player is great is great if you are on the 3rd line. Never good enough for someone that should be leading the team. You say puck luck. I say his production drops so much from lack of space and being a fancy perimeter player. I hope for your sake you get to see at least one fancy twister pass before its over.

 

[hb12xchamps]

Your hero's point per game drops way off in the playoffs. Being a half point per game player is great is great if you are on the 3rd line. Never good enough for someone that should be leading the team. You say puck luck. I say his production drops so much from lack of space and being a fancy perimeter player. I hope for your sake you get to see at least one fancy twister pass before its over.

Regular season ppg vs playoff ppg:

Backstrom .98 vs .78
Ovechkin 1.12 vs .93
Oshie .69 vs .56
Kuznetsov .76 vs .49

Obviously Kuznetsov's ppg total drops the most in terms of total points, but that is mainly due to his bad 2015-16 postseason. Take that out and he's at .63 ppg in the playoffs. He had 10 points in 13 games last year, good for third on the team behind Backstrom and Oshie. It's easy to nitpick his production when he has one bad postseason out of the three he's played in.

 

[twabby]

Your hero's point per game drops way off in the playoffs. Being a half point per game player is great is great if you are on the 3rd line. Never good enough for someone that should be leading the team. You say puck luck. I say his production drops so much from lack of space and being a fancy perimeter player. I hope for your sake you get to see at least one fancy twister pass before its over.

I really shouldn't humor you, but here is Evgeny "fancy perimeter player" Kuznetsov:

Oh and he had 4 goals (all at even strength) and 3 assists against the Penguins in 7 games last postseason. But yeah he's why they keep losing.

Please just find another hobby, I beg of you. The Capitals have broken you and you need to find something that entertains you or brings you some level of personal fulfillment because this isn't it.

 

[VaCaps Fan]

I hope its Easy for Kuzy to return and fix our jumbled lines....

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Regular season ppg vs playoff ppg:

Backstrom .98 vs .78
Ovechkin 1.12 vs .93
Oshie .69 vs .56
Kuznetsov .76 vs .49

Obviously Kuznetsov's ppg total drops the most in terms of total points, but that is mainly due to his bad 2015-16 postseason. Take that out and he's at .63 ppg in the playoffs. He had 10 points in 13 games last year, good for third on the team behind Backstrom and Oshie. It's easy to nitpick his production when he has one bad postseason out of the three he's played in.

Oshie is .88 with the Caps in the postseason. Certainly a more revealing and meaningful stat line than lumping in his Blues time, for this discussion.

 

[MrGone]

It's easy to nitpick his production when he has one bad postseason out of the three he's played in.

It not nitpicking when you drop the worst and best season. You don't want to count the bad one but you need to have the good the focus point of your argument.