Proposal: CAPS and CANUCKS

[petrishriekandgo]

Canucks need a vet center to help tutor Pettersson, Gaudette etc., Washington may need a shake up (if they're bounced) in their core leadership group.

To Vancouver:
- Nicklas Backstrom
- Madison Bowie

(Canucks get an ideal mentor for Pettersson and a solid D prospect)

To Washington:
- Bo Horvat
- Sam Gagner
- rights to Tryamkin

(Washington gets a gritty young centre, a vet centre to help on the PP and a Russian mountain who would love to play with his countryman)

Giving up Bo would be tough BUT the Canucks have a glut of forwards coming up and in 3 years Bo could end up being a $5M 3rd line centre on the team with Gaudette, Pettersson, Liepsic etc.

Thoughts?

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[Horse McHindu]

Canucks need a vet center to help tutor Pettersson, Gaudette etc., Washington may need a shake up (if they're bounced) in their core leadership group.

To Vancouver:
- Nicklas Backstrom
- Madison Bowie

(Canucks get an ideal mentor for Pettersson and a solid D prospect)

To Washington:
- Bo Horvat
- Sam Gagner
- rights to Tryamkin

(Washington gets a gritty young centre, a vet centre to help on the PP and a Russian mountain who would love to play with his countryman)

Giving up Bo would be tough BUT the Canucks have a glut of forwards coming up and in 3 years Bo could end up being a $5M 3rd line centre on the team with Gaudette, Pettersson, Liepsic etc.

Thoughts?

Trading a core piece for a 30 year old center as its main piece would be a BRUTAL move for Vancouver.

 

[robertmac43]

I think this goes against everything the Canucks want to do

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Complete and utter wrong direction for the Canucks. Just no thought process put into where the Canucks are as a team and their needs moving forward.
Hang your head in shame

 

[petrishriekandgo]

Bowie is supposed to be a special player no? Also, the glut of forwards coming into this team means trades within that forward group will be coming. Why not do it now so you can take advantage of the team growing together?

For me Boeser changed the landscape for the Canucks... players on the team (Virtanen etc.) are already calling him 'the franchise' and there is every reason to believe he could be the Captain of this team.

I just don't want a 5M 3rd line centre in 3years as Horvat gets passed by greater talents within the Canucks system.

 

[txpd]

The reason for the Caps to do this is to shake the roster up. Yes, they trade an 1C who is a matchup defensive center also. In return the Caps get an expensive 3C and Sam Gagner?? Really?

Edit: Sorry. Forgot about Bowey. A special young d and a legit 1c two way player for a player you think isn't a lock to be a 2c, a piece of throwaway junk and the rights to someone?

You think Washington does this because they need to do something. So why not this?

 

[Canuck Luck]

Bowie is supposed to be a special player no? Also, the glut of forwards coming into this team means trades within that forward group will be coming. Why not do it now so you can take advantage of the team growing together?

For me Boeser changed the landscape for the Canucks... players on the team (Virtanen etc.) are already calling him 'the franchise' and there is every reason to believe he could be the Captain of this team.

I just don't want a 5M 3rd line centre in 3years as Horvat gets passed by greater talents within the Canucks system.

Greater talents like who? Pettersson is projected to be a winger in the nhl and who knows if we ever move him back to C. Gaudette? You really think Gaudette will be better than Horvat? Let alone produce more than 50 points a year?. If anything Gaudette probably tops out as a 40-50 point guy if we are lucky. Horvat already is a 50-60 guy.

 

[petrishriekandgo]

The reason for the Caps to do this is to shake the roster up. Yes, they trade an 1C who is a matchup defensive center also. In return the Caps get an expensive 3C and Sam Gagner?? Really?

Stranger things have happened... and I'm not saying Bo is a 3rd line centre, I'm saying that's where he'll probably be on the Canucks in 3yrs.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Caps aren't going to do this. It would take a LOT more to get Backstrom (nevermind adding Bowie).

 

[petrishriekandgo]

Greater talents like who? Pettersson is projected to be a winger in the nhl and who knows if we ever move him back to C. Gaudette? You really think Gaudette will be better than Horvat? Let alone produce more than 50 points a year?. If anything Gaudette probably tops out as a 40-59 point guy if we are lucky. Horvat already is a 50-60 guy.

I think Gaudette will push Horvat out of the 2nd line centre spot...

 

[boogeybendo]

Bowie is supposed to be a special player no? Also, the glut of forwards coming into this team means trades within that forward group will be coming. Why not do it now so you can take advantage of the team growing together?

For me Boeser changed the landscape for the Canucks... players on the team (Virtanen etc.) are already calling him 'the franchise' and there is every reason to believe he could be the Captain of this team.

I just don't want a 5M 3rd line centre in 3years as Horvat gets passed by greater talents within the Canucks system.

No way Horvat is a 3rd line centre in 3 years... just move someone to the wing.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Stranger things have happened... and I'm not saying Bo is a 3rd line centre, I'm saying that's where he'll probably be on the Canucks in 3yrs.

I'm certain that if Backstrom was on the block, the caps could get a significantly better offer than this.

 

[petrishriekandgo]

I'm certain that if Backstrom was on the block, the caps could get a significantly better offer than this.

Could be right...

 

[txpd]

Stranger things have happened... and I'm not saying Bo is a 3rd line centre, I'm saying that's where he'll probably be on the Canucks in 3yrs.

Why not see if they will give up Kuznetsov for the rights to the Sedins then?

 

[Canuck Luck]

I think Gaudette will push Horvat out of the 2nd line centre spot...

Great for you to think that, doesn’t mean he actually will. And odds are against that happening. So what if Gaudette doesn’t pan out? What if Pettersson doesn’t ever shift to center? 3 years later you’re stuck with a 33 year old Center and nothing in the Pipeline.

But yes let’s trade our 2nd best foward who’s only what 22 for a 30 year old because Gaudette has a chance of becoming a 2nd line center. Mind you the chances are even less he becomes better than horvat who is a low end 1C.

For arguments sake let’s say Gaudette manages to become a 2nd line center but not as good as horvat. 5 years from now who’s our 1C? Not Backstrom because he’ll be around retirement time. Not horvat since you traded him. Pettersson? The guy who isn’t even a center in the shl besides the odd game?

 

[clunk]

What the **** is this dude?

 

[maroon 6]

Doesn't make sense for either team.

 

[petrishriekandgo]

Great for you to think that, doesn’t mean he actually will. And odds are against that happening. So what if Gaudette doesn’t pan out? What if Pettersson doesn’t ever shift to center? 3 years later you’re stuck with a 33 year old Center and nothing in the Pipeline

Not sure the Canucks have 'nothing' and the 2018 draft is yet to come. I'd be OK with this centre depth for the Canucks in 3 years:

Pettersson
Gaudette
Backstrom
Liepsic/Gaunce/Cassels (other)

 

[petrishriekandgo]

What the **** is this dude?

A thread to discuss trade possibilities that 'could' improve the team. Thought that was obvious...

 

[Canuck Luck]

Not sure the Canucks have 'nothing' and the 2018 draft is yet to come. I'd be OK with this centre depth for the Canucks in 3 years:

Pettersson
Gaudette
Backstrom
Liepsic/Gaunce/Cassels (other)

Again what makes you think Pettersson will be a center in the nhl if he can’t even be a center in the shl?

Gaunce has been played as a lw for years now. Leipsic isn’t a center and Cassels is never making the show barring a miracle. Hell come July 1st, there’s a strong possibility that Cassels won’t even be Canucks property! The fact you even mention Cassels as a nhl player shows that you’re unable to evaluate players

 

[petrishriekandgo]

Why not see if they will give up Kuznetsov for the rights to the Sedins then?

The retired Sedins?

 

[GoodbyeLuongo]

This literally makes zero sense for either team. Backstrom is the far superior player, but will be 34 or 35 before the Canucks are competing.

 

[petrishriekandgo]

Again what makes you think Pettersson will be a center in the nhl if he can’t even be a center in the shl?

Gaunce has been played as a lw for years now. Leipsic isn’t a center and Cassels is never making the show barring a miracle. The fact you even mention Cassels as a nhl player shows that you’re unable to evaluate players

Sure, keep throwing stones at my Cassel...

Pettersson will be a centre in the NHL in 3yrs, Gaudette played centre for a few games with the Canucks and will be one on the team in the near future. You're right Cassels may never make the big club because of foot speed issues but he's smart as hell. Who knows... prospects evolve, some evolve later than others.

 

[petrishriekandgo]

This literally makes zero sense for either team. Backstrom is the far superior player, but will be 34 or 35 before the Canucks are competing.

Perfect... then you drop him when the Canucks are ready to go and have that cap space to sign emerging players coming out of their Entry level deals. Exactly what the Canucks should be doing.

 

[txpd]

The retired Sedins?

Yea. I mean, if stranger things have happened that you can trade a middle of the lineup young center and a piece of throwaway junk for potential top pair offensive defenseman and a legit 1c two way center, then why not ask for another 1c for the rights to a couple of retired players?