Salary Cap: Capology 2016-17

[DaveG]

FORWARDS:

NAME|2016-17|17-18|18-19|19-20|20-21|21-22|22-23
Jordan Staal|6,000,000|6,000,000|6,000,000|6,000,000|6,000,000|6,000,000| UFA
Jeff Skinner|5,725,000|5,725,000|5,725,000| UFA
Victor Rask|4,000,000|4,000,000|4,000,000|4,000,000|4,000,000|4,000,000| UFA
Bryan Bickell|4,000,000| UFA
Elias Lindholm|2,700,000|2,700,000| RFA
Lee Stempniak|2,500,000|2,500,000| UFA
Viktor Stalberg|1,500,000| UFA
Joakim Nordstrom|1,275,000|1,275,000| RFA
Jay McClement|1,200,000| UFA
Sebastian Aho|925,000|925,000|925,000| RFA
Andrej Nestrasil|912,500| RFA
Teuvo Teravainen|894,167| RFA
Phil di Giuseppe|817,500| RFA
Martin Frk|639,167| RFA

DEFENSEMEN:

NAME|2016-17|17-18|18-19|19-20|20-21|21-22|22-23
Justin Faulk|4,833,333|4,833,333|4,833,333|4,833,333| UFA
Ron Hainsey|2,833,333| UFA
Noah Hanifin|925,000|925,000| RFA
Brett Pesce|809,167|809,167| RFA
Ryan Murphy|787,500|787,500| RFA
Klas Dahlbeck|750,000| RFA
Roland McKeown|745,000|745,000|745,000| RFA
Jaccob Slavin|742,500|742,500| RFA
Jakub Nakladal|600,000| UFA

GOALIES:

NAME|2016-17|17-18|18-19|19-20|20-21|21-22|22-23
Cam Ward|3,300,000|3,300,000| UFA
Eddie Lack|2,750,000|2,750,000| UFA

BUYOUTS/RETENTION:

NAME|2016-17|17-18|18-19|19-20|20-21|21-22|22-23
Alexander Semin|2,333,333|2,333,333|2,333,333|2,333,333|2,333,333
James Wisniewski|3,500,000|1,000,000

projected salary cap: 73,000,000
projected cap hit: 55,938,333


PROSPECTS/AHLers:

NAME|2016-17|17-18|18-19|19-20|20-21
F Julien Gauthier||925,000|925,000|925,000| RFA
F Andrew Poturalski|858,750|858,750| RFA
F Brock McGinn|811,667| RFA
F Aleksi Saarela||775,833|775,833|775,833| RFA
F Nicolas Roy||705,000|705,000|705,000| RFA
F Valentin Zykov|705,000|705,000| RFA
F Clark Bishop|695,000|695,000| RFA
F Lucas Wallmark|683,333|683,333|683,333| RFA
F Erik Karlsson|661,667| RFA
F Patrick Brown|650,000| RFA
F Andrew Miller|650,000| UFA
F Brendan Woods|650,000| RFA
F Connor Brickley|650,000| RFA
F Sergei Tolchinski|616,667|616,667| RFA
F Derek Ryan|600,000| UFA
D Jake Bean||925,000|925,000|925,000| RFA
D Haydn Fleury|863,333|863,333|863,333| RFA
D Keegan Lowe|750,000| RFA
D Roland McKeown|745,000|745,000|745,000| RFA
D Josh Wesley|695,000|695,000|695,000| RFA
D Trevor Carrick|675,000| RFA
D Dennis Robertson|650,000| RFA
D Tyler Ganly|640,000|640,000| RFA
D Matt Tennyson|675,000| UFA
D Jake Chelios|585,000| RFA
G Alex Ndeljkovic|811,667|811,667|811,667| RFA
G Daniel Altshuller|728,333| RFA
G Michael Leighton|700,000| UFA

UFAs:
Nathan Gerbe - signed with NY Rangers
Reilly Nash - signed with Boston
Chris Terry - signed with Montreal (two-way)
Brad Malone - signed with Washington (two-way)
TJ Hensick - signed with Ontario (AHL)
Zach Boychuk
Anthony Camara
Dane Fox - signed with Missouri Mavericks (ECHL)
Carter Sandlak - signed with Grand Rapids (AHL)
Justin Shugg - signed with Dynamo Riga (KHL)
Danny Biega
Michal Jordan - signed with AK Bars Kazan (KHL)
Rasmus Rissanen - signed with Jokerit (KHL)
Rasmus Tirronen - signed with Espoo (Mestis)

Unsigned Prospects:
2016 rights:
G Collin Olson (NCAA)

2017 rights:
F Sebastian Aho
F Aleksi Saarela
F Steven Lorentz
F Spencer Smallwood
F Brendan Collier (NCAA)
G Callum Booth

2018:
F Julien Gauthier
F Hudson Elynuik
F Warren Foegele (NCAA)
D Jake Bean
D Noah Carroll
G Jeremy Helvig

beyond:
F Luke Stevens
F David Cotton
F Janne Kuokkanen
F Matt Filipe
F Max Zimmer
G Jack LaFontaine


DRAFT PICKS:
2017:
CAR 1st
CAR 2nd
NYR 2nd - acq in E Staal trade 2016
CAR 3rd
CHI 3rd - acq in Versteeg trade 2015, returned to CHI in TT/Bickell trade 2016
NJ 3rd - acq in Ruutu trade 2014
CAR 4th
CAR 5th
BOS 5th - acq in Liles trade 2016
CAR 6th
CAR 7th

2018:
CAR 1st
CAR 2nd
CAR 3rd
CAR 4th
CAR 5th
CAR 6th
CAR 7th

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[MinJaBen]

Why are Pesce's and Slavin's ELCs longer than Hanifin's ELC?

 

[DaveG]

Why are Pesce's and Slavin's ELCs longer than Hanifin's ELC?

that was an error, I copy-pasta'd one time too many on those two.

 

[MinJaBen]

I wish it were true, but alas, we will have to pay them eventually.

 

[Unsustainable]

Awesome, we are set to really get some players.

 

[GoldiFox]

I was thinking about this today. Slavin, Pesce, and Hanifin all will end their ELC at the same time. I could see it being good if they can sign all of them to Faulk-like long-term deals suited to their development but it could create a crunch if you have three young top-4 D all chomping for big money.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I was thinking about this today. Slavin, Pesce, and Hanifin all will end their ELC at the same time. I could see it being good if they can sign all of them to Faulk-like long-term deals suited to their development but it could create a crunch if you have three young top-4 D all chomping for big money.

I'm not sure all 3 of them will be viewed equally in a couple years from now so there will likely be some distinction between them. Even so, the following year it will be Fleury and McKeown as well. I think if they all pan out, they all won't be Canes at that point in time.

 

[TheOllieC]

2016 3rd from WPG is from Tlusty deal no?

 

[DaveG]

2016 3rd from WPG is from Tlusty deal no?

yep, the pick from the Harrison deal was the one from last years draft. fixed.

 

[NotOpie]

I believe the LA 5th this year was conditional on the Kings making the conference finals. Which means that condition wouldn't have been met.

 

[tomdundo]

I believe the LA 5th this year was conditional on the Kings making the conference finals. Which means that condition wouldn't have been met.

Correct. We were pushing for a higher Kings 1st rounder rather than having the Kings make the WCF for that 5th.

 

[DaveG]

Forgot that was conditional. Yeah much rather have the #21 then the #27 and a 5th that's for sure.

 

[geehaad]

It's really convenient to have this as a quick reference...thanks Dave!

Wondering, for the sake of a similar quick reference: is there value in having actual salary also? Sorry if this has been discussed previously. I know actual salary is more difficult to track, but that's also what lends some value to having the quick reference here. And, as opposed to online sources such as nhlnumbers.com, I don't know of an online reference for actual salary.

Just a thought.

 

[Unsustainable]

Aho and Saarela are signed, I'd like to see another 1 or 2 inked maybe of the futures.

 

[MinJaBen]

Aho and Saarela are signed, I'd like to see another 1 or 2 inked maybe of the futures.

Seeing Aho signed for three more years at $950K make me feel sad for the other teams. That seems like a complete steal based on his talent.

 

[geehaad]

A completely premature statement, in my humble opinion.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

A completely premature statement, in my humble opinion.

Yep, on top of the fact that there are rules governing ELC that define (limit) what he can be paid.

 

[MinJaBen]

Yep, on top of the fact that there are rules governing ELC that define (limit) what he can be paid.

I am aware of the rules on ELC. And if I were an Oilers fan, I'd think the same thing when looking at McDavid's contract. My point was that for guys with obvious NHL talent, and given his play so far I think he has that, an ELC seems like a great bargain to allow you to build a team around.

But you are right, this is the Canes board and it would be a banning offense to be happy and optimistic about the future of the team or players...

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I am aware of the rules on ELC. And if I were an Oilers fan, I'd think the same thing when looking at McDavid's contract. My point was that for guys with obvious NHL talent, and given his play so far I think he has that, an ELC seems like a great bargain to allow you to build a team around.

But you are right, this is the Canes board and it would be a banning offense to be happy and optimistic about the future of the team or players...

Nah, You're missing the point. It isn't about being optimistic for the future, most of us are. But:

1) As geehaad said, until he proves more, it's a bit early to say it "makes you feel sad for other teams"

2) And since you are aware of how ELC works, you'd realize that most teams have skilled guys that are on ELC, so it makes no sense to feel sorry for them because of what we are paying Aho since they have guys in the same category. Oilers have McDavid. Toronto has Marner, Nylander and Matthews. AZ has Duclair, Strome, Dvorak. Calgary has Bennett. Buffalo has Eichel and Reinhart, etc..etc..

I'm as happy as any Canes fan that Aho exploded onto the scene this past year and that we have him under contract, just think that saying you feel sorry for other teams at this juncture is a bit over the top. A lot of teams have good, skilled young players on ELCs.

 

[geehaad]

it would be a banning offense to be happy and optimistic

No, we reserve that punishment for not using the sarcasm smiley appropriately.

 

[My Special Purpose]

I am aware of the rules on ELC. And if I were an Oilers fan, I'd think the same thing when looking at McDavid's contract. My point was that for guys with obvious NHL talent, and given his play so far I think he has that, an ELC seems like a great bargain to allow you to build a team around.

But you are right, this is the Canes board and it would be a banning offense to be happy and optimistic about the future of the team or players...

This is why UFAs are overpaid. The players play under a system that restricts their salary for seven seasons, then they get a chance to get fair-market value. It's why sometimes, you just have to give Cam Ward $6 million. The system is built to underpay young players and overpay older ones. And I guess there's nothing really wrong with that, but it is the older guys (for the most part) who are union reps and who are responsible for negotiating the CBA. It's not truly "fair," but I don't think they want it to be fair. The players (and teams) set it up this way for a reason. The players want kids to pay their dues before they strike it rich. The teams want core players for cheap for a little while, knowing they are going to have to overpay to keep their established players.

If you think about UFA contracts in terms of what these guys earned in relation to what they produced in their first seven seasons, it may make you feel better about some of the "massive overpayments" that are coming in the next 10 days.

 

[NotOpie]

This is why UFAs are overpaid. The players play under a system that restricts their salary for seven seasons, then they get a chance to get fair-market value. It's why sometimes, you just have to give Cam Ward $6 million. The system is built to underpay young players and overpay older ones. And I guess there's nothing really wrong with that, but it is the older guys (for the most part) who are union reps and who are responsible for negotiating the CBA. It's not truly "fair," but I don't think they want it to be fair. The players (and teams) set it up this way for a reason. The players want kids to pay their dues before they strike it rich. The teams want core players for cheap for a little while, knowing they are going to have to overpay to keep their established players.

If you think about UFA contracts in terms of what these guys earned in relation to what they produced in their first seven seasons, it may make you feel better about some of the "massive overpayments" that are coming in the next 10 days.

Agree 100% on this. Maybe the best value player out there is the guy who lives up to his 1st UFA contract through its entire 5 or 7 years. Guys like Joe Pavelski are invaluable.

 

[geehaad]

Maybe the best value player out there is the guy who lives up to his 1st UFA contract through its entire 5 or 7 years. Guys like Joe Pavelski are invaluable.

I'd rather have the 119 goals that Steve Stamkos scored on his entry level contract for 3 years at $2.85M per.

 

[NotOpie]

I'd rather have the 119 goals that Steve Stamkos scored on his entry level contract for 3 years at $2.85M per.

Well there is always that .

Yet, the reality is that as a #1OA pick, you expect production, maybe not at that level but close. When Pavelski puts up almost 230 points as a 29, 30, and 31 year old he's easily out earning his $6 million per season. If he can put up 180 points over the next 3 years he easily out-earns his contract. Those guys are fewer and much farther between than the Stamkos's, the Monahans, or to a lesser extent the Huberdeaus.

Don't get me wrong, it is less of a "which would I rather have" and more of a "I want this guy also".

 

[geehaad]

Don't get me wrong, it is less of a "which would I rather have" and more of a "I want this guy also".

With ya, I was just going off of the phrase "best value player out there". I'm thinking it's a guy on his ELC that kills it rather than a guy on his payday contract who is playing in line with his contract.

The former is just as rare as the latter...or maybe even less rare?