Rumor: Capitals goalie Ilya Samsonov coming to America, will sign after April 30th (first day he can sign)

[Cypher]

If they are trading a goalie, why are they getting a goalie back?

Especially when caps have orlov, Kuznetsov and ovechkin

To rekindle old friendships? .. Plus Varly would probably be on IR most of the time, so he could just hang out and mentor IIya.

 

[rent free]

Grubauer needs a new deal, they won't be able to afford both anyways. They could still sign a solid backup after moving one of their two guys

I don't think grubauer would get a huge deal just because he had one great season as the backup. He could do terrible in the playoffs. He is also 25 so he has 2 years of control left so it's not like he is gonna sign a long term deal that's gonna pay him past him ufa years.

 

[Go Wings]

Even though they are divisional opponents Carolina should be all over this making a deal for Holtby at the draft.

 

[shtorm2005]

Will some team be interested to get Hotlby?

 

[Drij]

looks like hes 10 years old

 

[Scott Stevens]

Goalie controversy's generally haven't been the best approach either though. You want your starter to be the starter.

Controversies

 

[logik47]

Will some team be interested to get Hotlby?

My guesses: Detroit, Buffalo, Vancouver or Carolina.

 

[Devil Dancer]

The Caps aren't going to be able to afford Holtby and Grubauer back next year. That became true as soon as Grubauer became their starter in all but name down the stretch, and thrived. The strong numbers from Grubauer in his contract year are going to see him get paid. He is a RFA making $1.5M.

Definitely true, but they also need to flip a goalie for assets. It's their only organizational position of strength. The forward prospect pool is awful. They have a lot of D prospects, but no blue chippers. Between Holtby/Gruby and Samsonov they hopefully have G locked down for the next 10 years even after a trade, but they need a new wave of prospects at other positions.

 

[Alan Wake]

Carolina should be all over Holtbeast.

Buffalo too. Especially if they have both Rasmus'.

 

[Carlzner]

this guy hasn't even played a game on north american ice. imo theres a very high chance he starts in the minors and the caps keep both grubauer and holtby for next season

The Capitals have a few other goaltending prospects that could step into a backup role.

 

[Duncstar]

The Capitals have a few other goaltending prospects that could step into a backup role.

Ottawa could be in on this. Man that'd be something. Got some used junk to trade.

 

[rent free]

The Capitals have a few other goaltending prospects that could step into a backup role.

Like who?

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Is Samsonov willing to start in the AHL? I could see there being an AHL-exempt clause if he feels he deserves to be in the NHL since he's already a backup in the KHL and would most likely make more money in the KHL over the AHL.

I doubt he'd come over to play in the AHL. I'm sure the Caps have made it clear he's got a spot next season. I think Holtby is as good as gone.

 

[Carlzner]

Like who?

Copley & Vanecek could battle for a backup spot. Both promising prospects who have been in the minors for a few years now. And Samsonov has the talent to play in the NHL next year. So... no, your prediction of the Caps keeping both 70 & 31 is wrong.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

Is Samsonov willing to start in the AHL? I could see there being an AHL-exempt clause if he feels he deserves to be in the NHL since he's already a backup in the KHL and would most likely make more money in the KHL over the AHL.

I doubt he'd come over to play in the AHL. I'm sure the Caps have made it clear he's got a spot next season. I think Holtby is as good as gone.

Ilya Samsonov eyes backup role with Capitals next season, open to playing in AHL

I expect Grubauer to end up being traded and one of Copley or Vanecek backs up Holtby next year. The other of Copley/Vanecek splits starts with Samsonov in Hershey.

 

[MagicalRazor]

Will some team be interested to get Hotlby?

many teams need a number 1 goalie.

NYI , CANES , CGY , EDM could use one Talbot is allright but hes a UFA not this year but next. SENS , COL , Blues as well maybe? Allens been going down last 2 years and i dont know how much longer they will ride out Hutton Hes turning 33. LOTS AND LOTS of team will be interested if a name like holtby comes up He will fetch a late 1st and a 2'd probably like noted above goalies just dont return well for what ever reason.

 

[PAZ]

Ilya Samsonov eyes backup role with Capitals next season, open to playing in AHL

I expect Grubauer to end up being traded and one of Copley or Vanecek backs up Holtby next year. The other of Copley/Vanecek splits starts with Samsonov in Hershey.

Good to hear he knows he has to work for the backup position. Always uncertain with players coming from the KHL nowadays whether they're open to the AHL or not.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Ilya Samsonov eyes backup role with Capitals next season, open to playing in AHL

I expect Grubauer to end up being traded and one of Copley or Vanecek backs up Holtby next year. The other of Copley/Vanecek splits starts with Samsonov in Hershey.

Well that's a surprise, that he'd leave Russia and possibly end up in the AHL. Don't see many Russians open to that idea.

 

[SDBondra]

Would be funny to see Holtby go to Colorado and take Varlamov’s starting job AGAIN.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

many teams need a number 1 goalie.

NYI , CANES , CGY , EDM could use one Talbot is allright but hes a UFA not this year but next. SENS , COL , Blues as well maybe? Allens been going down last 2 years and i dont know how much longer they will ride out Hutton Hes turning 33. LOTS AND LOTS of team will be interested if a name like holtby comes up He will fetch a late 1st and a 2'd probably like noted above goalies just dont return well for what ever reason.

Bolded definitely wont be in the market for a goalie with Talbot and Smith.

And the Sens will not be going out to get Holtby with Anderson and Condon still on payroll. Maybe in another years time when those guys come off but even then I doubt Melnyk is a guy who's going to spend 5-6M+ on a #1G, that a position he can fill with mediocrity for much cheaper which is right up his alley.


I dont think there's a lot of suitors for a #1G right now around the league and because of that the Caps will struggle to get good value for whatever goalie they opt to move.



Islanders and Canes are the obvious two in need of help fast. Buffalo and Detroit are another two that will need a starter and dont have quality options within right now. After that, Colorado, St. Louis, Philly, San Jose, Vancouver are other wild card teams that could have interest as well for different reasons. Avs, Sharks, and Blues for example have a decent 1A/1B combo now but health and consistency concerns for both could lead them to be interested in Holtby. Philly and Vancouver could use the upgrade to Holtby now but both have elite goalie prospects in the system that are probably 1-2 years away and so they may have interest in Holtby but also maybe just as happy to be patient and wait for the kids to continue coming along and developing.

 

[hockeykicker]

Would be funny to see Holtby go to Colorado and take Varlamov’s starting job AGAIN.

but varlamov was avs starting goalie in 2011-12

holtby didnt start as goalie until 2012-13

neuvirth was the goalie who took varlamov job

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

The time has come for one of Holtby and Grubauer to be traded.

 

[Prairie Habs]

Trade Holtby to Calgary for Brodie to replace Carlson if he leaves
Sign a Niemi/ Halak type vet to a cheap 1 year deal so Samsonov can start in the AHL and get a bunch of games in
Evaluate at Christmas whether you can dump your vet to bring up Samsonov
If its not working out panic and trade Kuznetsov to Montreal in case that helps

 

[Prairie Habs]

but varlamov was avs starting goalie in 2011-12

holtby didnt start as goalie until 2012-13

neuvirth was the goalie who took varlamov job

Hockeydb says Holtby started all 14 playoff games for the caps in 11-12 so you could kind of make that argument?

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Hockeydb says Holtby started all 14 playoff games for the caps in 11-12 so you could kind of make that argument?