TSN: Canadiens leaning a lot, maybe too much, on Price

Team_Spirit · Jan 20, 2015

If there is one question I get more than any other this season, it's what to make of this year's Montreal Canadiens. At 28-13-3 (59 points), Montreal has a fairly considerable lead over the playoff hopefuls currently sitting outside of the top-eight. Because of this, attention has rightly turned from whether or not the team will make the postseason, to whether or not the team can make a deep playoff push.

http://www.tsn.ca/canadiens-leaning-a-lot-maybe-too-much-on-price-1.187481

BLONG7 · Jan 20, 2015

Dat system...

FrontierPsyCHiatrist* · Jan 20, 2015

BLONG7 said:
Dat system...

This.

Thrrriens system is great, it makes Price's job easier.

Team_Spirit · Jan 20, 2015

Just realized it's already talked about here : http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1816759

please close this thread.

Scintillating10 · Jan 20, 2015

He's one of the stars....why he's paid the big bucks. Think Pens aren't relying on Crosby...Bolts on Stamkos?

lo striver · Jan 20, 2015

hm, anadiens eaning on rice?

sheed36 · Jan 20, 2015

Was there really any doubt about this? Pretty much anyone who watches the Habs regularly can clearly see this is the case most games especially how poorly the Habs start most games this season.

Lafleurs Guy · Jan 20, 2015

Cinderella Man said:
This.

Thrrriens system is great, it makes Price's job easier.

Riiiiight... 'cause giving up more shots than the opposition is "part of the strategy."

OnTheRun · Jan 20, 2015

Cinderella Man said:
This.

Thrrriens system is great, it makes Price's job easier.

Therrien's power of... moral support(?) is a force to be reckoned with.

Sterling Archer · Jan 20, 2015

Just like Nashville relies on Rinne, Pittsburg on Crosby and Malkin, LA on Kopitar, Boston on Rask, Tampsa on Bishop or Stamkos, NY on Lundquist, Isles on Tavares etc etc etc.

I hate when they act like Price isn't a regular player on this team. He's just as important as any other star player is to their team.

CHarlie · Jan 20, 2015

Awwwwwwwwww is poor TSN's team bombing again this year..........have to find things to dig up on the real teams of the league..........joke of a network :rant:

Tyson · Jan 20, 2015

I guess they need to change the subject from the Laffs

Grant McCagg · Jan 20, 2015

lostriver said:
hm, anadiens eaning on rice?

Need more Acadians.

Disappearing Semin · Jan 20, 2015

I don't understand the goalie graph, well why is he compared to guys like Howard,Fleury instead of Rinne, Quick, Lundqvist ...

FloJack · Jan 20, 2015

Anadia is my favourite part of Canada.

OnTheRun · Jan 20, 2015

shutehinside said:
Just like Nashville relies on Rinne, Pittsburg on Crosby and Malkin, LA on Kopitar, Boston on Rask, Tampsa on Bishop or Stamkos, NY on Lundquist, Isles on Tavares etc etc etc.

I hate when they act like Price isn't a regular player on this team. He's just as important as any other star player is to their team.

Why do you do that in a thread with a graph clearly showing you the opposite?

Stamkos? What about Johnson, Kucherov, Callahan, Palat and Filppula?
How much do you rely on one 40+ points player (Stamkos) when you have 3 of them? (Johnson, Kucherov, Stamkos) and 3 more 30+ points players (Callahan, Palat, Fulppula)? That seems kinda balanced to me...

McGuires Corndog · Jan 20, 2015

shutehinside said:
Just like Nashville relies on Rinne, Pittsburg on Crosby and Malkin, LA on Kopitar, Boston on Rask, Tampsa on Bishop or Stamkos, NY on Lundquist, Isles on Tavares etc etc etc.

I hate when they act like Price isn't a regular player on this team. He's just as important as any other star player is to their team.

Are teams dependent on their superstars? Absolutely. But the underlying story here is that our outlying numbers aren't pretty and we are winning because of Price. The fact we are producing wins and points at the pace of these other teams with such bad advanced stats is a testament to how good Price is.

It's hard to measure the performance of a goaltender vs that of a skater, but if you compare Rinne and Price's shot faced graphs you see Price has been getting a lot more shots in the slot.

I think Carey is the most heavily leaned upon player in the league to carry his team.

Hope Of Glory · Jan 20, 2015

Lafleurs Guy said:
Riiiiight... 'cause giving up more shots than the opposition is "part of the strategy."

Not only more shots but more dangerous shots too, I believe. Lots of shots from prime scoring area like the slot.

googlymoogly · Jan 20, 2015

In Price we trust and the rest can just go Prust.

Mrb1p · Jan 20, 2015

Can we find those stats somewhere for the whole NHL ?

MathMan · Jan 20, 2015

Mrb1p said:
Can we find those stats somewhere for the whole NHL ?

war-on-ice.com has the numbers, but not expressed in the form of pretty graphs like those posted above.

Mr. Hab · Jan 20, 2015

charlie said:
Awwwwwwwwww is poor TSN's team bombing again this year..........have to find things to dig up on the real teams of the league..........joke of a network

Tyson said:
I guess they need to change the subject from the Laffs

Yup...bitter TSN!

Toronto's Sports Network (TSN) should worry about their own team.

Bernier, Reimer, Kessel, JVR, Lupul, Phaneuf's sweet contract, Kadri, Rieilly, Franson, Clarkson's sweet contract...and they can't score more than 2 goals in their last 5 losses...?? (don't they always say that they have an amazing team??!!).

They should concentrate on their team!! (TSN...always getting bitter when our Habs win).

P.S. earlier in the season when Leaves were winning more...they had a panel on making the playoffs,etc...
Bob Mckenzie was given crap by Laff fans for saying (back then) he didn't think they were a playoff team!! (truth hurts). The others were boasting about how great they thought the Leaves are/were!! They really should worry about their own team instead of making obvious bitter remarks about our Habs.

Cole Caulifield · Jan 20, 2015

I find it interesting that Nashville isn't listed there... why not ?

pcamp said:
I don't understand the goalie graph, well why is he compared to guys like Howard,Fleury instead of Rinne, Quick, Lundqvist ...

Because then they would have to show that Nashville is leaning on Rinne, NY on Lundqvist and that would go against the made up premise of their article.

Raimu · Jan 20, 2015

pcamp said:
I don't understand the goalie graph, well why is he compared to guys like Howard,Fleury instead of Rinne, Quick, Lundqvist ...

He's compared to the goalies of the other top teams in the east.

Cole Caulifield · Jan 20, 2015

JGRB said:
Are teams dependent on their superstars? Absolutely. But the underlying story here is that our outlying numbers aren't pretty and we are winning because of Price. The fact we are producing wins and points at the pace of these other teams with such bad advanced stats is a testament to how good Price is.

It's hard to measure the performance of a goaltender vs that of a skater, but if you compare Rinne and Price's shot faced graphs you see Price has been getting a lot more shots in the slot.

I think Carey is the most heavily leaned upon player in the league to carry his team.

http://blogues.radio-canada.ca/blog...-la-lnh-les-hommes-masques-qui-changent-tout/

Not that big of a difference between Tokarski and Price in point earning %.

TSN: Canadiens leaning a lot, maybe too much, on Price

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