Canada didn't deserve to make the final...

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  1. therealdeal

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    You know what I think? I think we should desperately look for any reason, however idiotic and insignificant, that Canada didn't deserve to be in the final (for the 3rd straight year) and how almost every other team got 'screwed' somehow. Lets ignore (for a moment, or a whole tournament if you will) the overwhelming depth advantage and skill advantage in every position that Canada holds over every other team, and lets try to find other reasons that justify how Canada could be so consistently good. Any other reason.

    By the way, did anyone notice Zetterberg punch the ref today after a scuffle with a Czech player behind the net in the first period? :rant: Should have been suspended along with the whole Swedish team. I think the refs must have been out to get the Czech Republic and thats why there was no call. I have another idea, lets focus on this incident for nearly 2 full weeks and bring it up in every situation, regardless of whether it is related to the discussion at hand.

    Did I not say some people were setting up excuses for not winning?
    I think some people need to start focusing on hockey, sometimes there are bad calls, thats the way it goes, its part of the game. Deal with it. The level of discourse around here has gotten pretty bad.
     
  2. PredsFan77*

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    One would wonder what you would be doing, if the tides were turned.
     

  3. the canadians are goons and cheat against russia :sarcasm:


    you've pretty much hit the nail on the head :clap:
     
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    Here's my bid for over.
     
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    have to suck it up i guess - one more game to go - may have to yet
     

  6. i'll bet over
     
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    Best thread ever! :sarcasm:
     
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    You know what? The Nash non-call was a bad call. Everyone is right when they say he should be suspended. You know what? He wasnt suspended, he won't be suspended, and if you want to believe your team would have won had he been suspended, go ahead. But he wasnt, get over it. And as far as asking 'if the shoe were on the other foot,' don't be so naiive. Pretty much every tournament assembled, including the olympics, over the past 60 years, has had rules and timing made to specifically penalize Canada (and the USA.) So if you want to ask what I'd do if the shoe were on the other foot, I'd suck it up, as Canada has been doing for 60 years. But the truth is that Canada is a better hockey nation in general, and yes, Canada is not invincible. They can, have, and will lose games. But if Canada wins, try looking towards skill, talent, depth and heart as reasons, not the odd bad call, because if you want to be unbiased, you better admit those go both ways ALL THE TIME.
     
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    I have lost alot of my respect for some of the canadian posters here, people brinf up things like the nash incident and the refereeing and all that some people here cna come back with in response is "we're canada, we're the best.... if they didn't do anything about it stop whining..." The point is that as in the Nash incident it WAS intentional it SHOULD have been a suspension but some people just can't swallow the fact that a canadian would do something like that!
     
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    It's also worth nothing which country's officials, media, and fans did the most whining during both the 1998 and 2002 olympics.
     
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    oh please, oyu have to be kidding me!! how have they made rules to "penalize the US and Canada"? the world cup... they actually gave a clear advantage to US and Canada in order to have more chance for a all North American final
     
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    Yeah, what he said.

    Oh, and I'll bet over :D
     
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    It not fair! Sotnos must have gone for dinner or something. :D
     
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    Go eat a steak, you'll feel better.
     
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    What are you talking about? He should have been suspended, he wasnt. Move on. Shouldnt have happened, but it did. There have been many bad calls in hockey, they will continue. But this is a dead issue.
     
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    As the Canucks have played I don't think they deserve a spot in finals, regardless of the Nash incident. Anyone can go back and read the game threads and see what most canadiens thought about their team.
     
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    What do you call the World Championships? Large Ice Surface, European Fans, and every year not in North America. So one year in US and Canada isn't going to make a difference
     
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    Different ice surface (we invented the game, if you remember) shootouts, rules/refs that heavily penalize physical style of play which canada dominates, not allowing Canada to use pro players, while allowing every Euro team to do so, shootouts which arent even part of the game, this tournament going on while all of Canada's top players are still playing...

    Gimme a break, open your eyes. The Canada Cup was invented by us BECAUSE it was the only tournament we could have an advantage. It was created because we wanted a chance to play in Canada, and use our pros. Big deal, thats one tournament out of what, 4?

    Does anyone remember when Canada was stripped of a bronze because the IIHF wanted to 'promote the game' in Europe so you could compete, so they changed the rules of the tournament after the tournament was over? Geeze, its been 60 years of getting screwed. Don't tell Canadians to try and see the other side of things, we are the other side 90% of the time. I'm not defending Nash or the decision, but its done, it was done 2 weeks ago, and continuing to complain about just makes you look petty and bitter.
     
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    Why is it that everytime Canada (or Cheatada as they have been called) wins, someone starts a thread complaining? :shakehead
     
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    That the NHL doesn't use the IIHF size ice surface is their own business. It's not a rule to "penalize North Americans". NCAA college hockey has incorporated rules that are different from the NHL. As for the WHC not being in the North America, that's because the NHL doesn't want it to be.
     
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    Hey, Epsilon. You do know that your avatar is very annoying, right? ;)
     
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    Whether its purpose was to penalize NA teams doesnt matter. It does. The rules have penalized Canada for 60 years. We dealt with it.
     
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    What, you don't like the DRUDGE REPORT siren? ;)
     
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    How can you say that IIHF's rules penalize Canada?

    Big ice: Not IIHF's fault.
     
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    Keep in mind that some (maybe even most) Canadians agree with you, so maybe you could put the word "some" in bold next time.

    Oh and some non Canadian posters irritate with this Canada cheats BS when "Canada" is not the one officiating the games and handing out the suspensions.
     
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