Can you beat this prospects line-up?

Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by NewHabsEra*, Jul 23, 2004.

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  1. NewHabsEra*

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    Higgins - Plekanec - Kostitsyn

    Hossa - Chipchura - Perezhogin

    Lambert - Locke - Urquhart

    Bonneau - Lapierre - Ferland

    Hainsey O'Byrn

    Korneev Archer

    Korpikari Yemelin

    Danis
    Lindberg
    Halak
     
  2. I'm sure the blackhawks, penguins, and capitals can easily.
     
  3. Ajacied

    Ajacied Stay strong Appie! ❤

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    Aside from the first two lines, I don't find it so amazing to praise about. Relatively weak defense, goaltending seems quite thin and suspect as well.

    But no, the Stars probably couldn't match it..

    Annti Miettinen - Joel Lundqvist - Jussi Jokinen
    Loui Eriksson - Alexander Naurov - Junior Lessard
    Vojtach Polak - Yared Hagos - Marius Holtet
    Brandon Crombeen - Jarko Immonen - Mattias Tjarnqvist

    Spares: Raymond Sawada/David Bararuk

    Trevor Daley - Dan Jancevski
    Matt Nickerson - Shawn Belle
    Mark Fistric - Johan Fransson

    Dan Ellis
    Tobias Stephan
    Mike Smith

    Actually, it's not much worse, if at all. Just like usual, the Stars aren't very strong in terms of top flight talent in comparison to the Habs here, but their forward lines seem deep and balanced, their D is deep and they're quite solid in net.
     
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    Jiri Hudler - Eric Himelfarb - Igor Grigorenko
    Tomas Kopecky - Valterri Filppula - Andreas Jamtin
    Jari Tosla - Nathan Robinson - Todd Jackson
    Tomek Valtonen - Johan Franzen - Darryl Bootland

    Niklas Kronwall - Derek Meech
    Kyle Quincey - Miroslav Blatak
    Brett Lebda - Danny Groulx

    Jimmy Howard
    Stefan Liv
     
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    Probably not this lineup, but it ain't bad. Very strong at right wing

    Tambellini-Boyle-Brown
    Clarke-Murray-Tukonen
    Karlsson-Steckel-Pushkarev
    James-Lehoux-Kanko

    Grebeshkov-Petiot
    Zizka-Baier
    Andreson-Rullier

    Munce
    Zaba

    :dunno:
     
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    Actually our defensive prospect are quite underrated. Korpikari, O'Byrne and Archer are 3 mean guys who could shut down basically any forward prospect the Stars could ever dream to have. Yemelin is another shut down guy but he seems young and inexperienced, give him time he'll be a rock on our blueline just like the other 3. Hainsey and Korneev are so gifted offensively it's unbeliveable. I know those 2 might not make it to the NHL for different reasons here, but I know they are up there as the top offensive prospect d-mans.

    Danis and Lindberg may not have been drafted in the 1st round nor do they have been given a lot of hype, but they are solid goalie prospect, with a good shot at being starter at the NHL level someday. Danis may have the backup role in 2005-2006 with the Habs. Halak will be Slovakia's starter for the next couple of years for pretty much every upcoming tournament, and I fully expect him to be a starter in the NHL at some point in his career.

    You're obviously underating our bottom 2 lines aswell, Locke being one of the best player of his age, Lambert is a great 2-way hard working dude, and Uruqhart a Perreault clone, wich a little bit more playmaking abilities, and maybe not as good hands. Bonneau is an enforcer, while Lapierre is exactly the type of player Bégin is, plus more offensive talent. Ferland is a hard working power forward in the making, and I do think that our bottom 2 lines are better then Dallas' no names..

    Just my opinion of course.
     
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    If Hossa is a prsopect then so are Cammalleri and Gleason.
     
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    Ajacied Stay strong Appie! ❤

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    Wah? Why are we even discussing all of this. Three so called defensive shut down prospects who've never ever made someone's top 100 prospect lists, somehow shutdown the Stars top offensive prospects with ease? Considering you even said "the Stars could ever dream to have", I'll just dream a few years ahead and picture a Loui Eriksson and Vojtach Polak on full potential. Two Potential 1st line players, the latter draws comparisons from a poor man's Peter Forsberg, while the former of that of Milan Hedjuk. I'm just going to wish you good luck with those statements...

    I wouldn't want a small, soft, defensive liability as my 3rd line center. No thanks. And try to do a little more research before labeling the Stars lower line players as no-names. I won't even attempt trying to explain how off base you are.. I think that those 2 lower lines I put together for the Stars are a fair chunck better than the Habs'..
     
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    JSmith81x Your weapon is guilt

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    Aleksandr Kojevnikov | Jakub Sindel | Dave Bolland
    Bryan Bickell | Aleksei Ivanov | Matt Keith
    Karel Hromas | Colin Fraser | Matt Ellison
    -- ex: Ryan Garlock, Jari Viuhkola

    Anton Babchuk | Brent Seabrook
    Cam Barker | Michal Barinka
    James Wisniewski | Duncan Keith
    -- ex: Mitch Maunu, Dustin Byfuglien

    Corey Crawford | Mike Brodeur

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    That's a pretty good set of defensemen. :)


    ** Ruutu, Vandermeer, Leighton, and Anderson are all past the prospect stage.
     
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    I checked the Candiens page because I thought that Hossa didn't fit the requirements, but he's still on there regardless. I didn't want to be controversial so I put up a conservative list.

    What the hell is Squid listed at now anyway? Still a center or would he be a winger now?
     
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    Anton Babchuk | Brent Seabrook
    Cam Barker | Michal Barinka
    James Wisniewski | Duncan Keith

    That is some awesome potential on D.
     
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    I'd have Duncan Milroy in there over Bonneau. Also J.P. Cote is pretty good on D, he led Hamilton in +/- as a rookie last season with a +27, but it's hard to say who you would have to take out on D.
     
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    Vrana-Zajac-Foster
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    Kadeykin-DeMarchi
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    The defense isn't much to look at but Martin and Hale just graduated, otherwise it'd be much deeper. An excellent top 9 forwards IMO.
     
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    I'll take Chicago, Pittsburgh, or Washington's prospects over the Habs anyday.
     
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    For Atlanta:

    Stewart - Slater - Blatny
    Gracik - Stuart - MacKenzie
    Painchaud - Schell - Desbiens
    Baby - Sterling - Fretter

    Coburn - Valabik
    Sharrow - Ustrnul
    Enstrom - Lewis

    Lehtonen
    Garnett

    Not much to write home about for the Thrashers amongst the forward ranks but pretty darn strong on the blueline and in net (feels weird to type that.)
     
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    Have the Thrashers given up on Santala? Or is he too old to be considered a prospect?
     
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    Has the Habs tanked any season the last couple of years!? No, compared to Washington, Pittsburgh and Chicago..
     
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    Doesn't mean your prospect depth is better..
     
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    I'll try. Likely not the best, but not too bad either

    Rita - Schremp - Salmelainen
    Mihknov - Niinimaki - McDonald
    Reddox - Pouliot - Winchester
    Radunske - Brodziak - Jacques

    Lynch - Woywitka
    Greene - Tesliuk
    Gilbert - Svensk

    JDD
    DD
     
  21. leafaholix*

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    Has nothing to do with NHL success.

    The three teams I named all have better depth than the Habs, IMO.

    Mostly in net and on defense.
     
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    And it doesn't mean the Habs have done terribibly great either.
     
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    I would take those three for sure too.

    I'll give the Pens a go:

    Murley-Malkin-Anshakov
    Eaves-Talbot-Salmonsson
    Sivek-Bartschi-Armstrong
    Stone-Endicott-Christensen

    Whitney-Welch
    Nemej-Fernholm
    Bissonette-Goligoski
    Koci (this guy is a beast with an attitude)

    MAF
    Chiodo
     
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    And for Washington:

    Alexander Ovechkin - Jakub Klepis - Eric Fehr
    Alexander Semin - Jared Aulin - Jonas Johansson
    Brooks Laich - Brian Sutherby - Boyd Gordon
    Tomas Fleischmann - Mikhail Yunkov - Chris Bourque

    Extra: Steve Werner, Peter Guggisberg, Pasi Salonen, Owen Fussey, Andreas Valdix

    Shaone Morrisonn - Steve Eminger
    Jeff Schultz - Mike Green
    Nolan Yonkman - Jakub Cutta

    Extra: Sami Lepisto, Oscar Hedman

    Maxime Ouellet
    Maxime Daigneault
    Rastislav Stana
     
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    True, but I think what he was getting at there is they picked in better positions then habs, they all did bad meaning they had top 5 picks for the last few years while habs either made playoffs or came close putting them in the 12-20 overall pick range in each round over the years,and they did just as well while picking higher in the draft then other top prospect organizations. But when it comes down to it your right it doesn't make the habs overall prospect depth better.
     
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