Confirmed with Link: Byram fined 5k for interference on Crookshank

[Micklebot]

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[Cosmix]

The replay made it look like a headshot. $5K for a headshot. Hmmm.

 

[JD1]

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[BankStreetParade]

A fine worth 0.0016% of what he's making this year. That's gonna teach him!

 

[Micklebot]

A fine worth 0.0016% of what he's making this year. That's gonna teach him!

Fines are more about putting it on your record.

Honestly, with no significant injury I was a bit surprised there was even a fine,

 

[Icelevel]

I thought it was 500k

 

[BankStreetParade]

Fines are more about putting it on your record.

Honestly, with no significant injury I was a bit surprised there was even a fine,

Severity of injury shouldn't factor into supplemental discipline. Lots of guys get hefty supplemental discipline for plays that don't result in significant injuries. Anyway, the point is the fines are completely meaningless and they don't work as a deterrent.

 

[Micklebot]

Severity of injury shouldn't factor into supplemental discipline. Lots of guys get hefty supplemental discipline for plays that don't result in significant injuries. Anyway, the point is the fines are completely meaningless and they don't work as a deterrent.

Whether you think it should or not, the reality is severity of injury does matter and is often cited by the NHL as a factor in its determinations.

Just like prior history of supplemental discipline factors in, which a fine is essentially establishing a record for potential future incidents.

The reality is if Crookshank didn't initially appear to be injured, nobody would be talking about fines or suspensions, or whether it's a deterrent, it would have been a nothing minor for interference that the world would have quickly forgotten about.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Severity of injury shouldn't factor into supplemental discipline. Lots of guys get hefty supplemental discipline for plays that don't result in significant injuries. Anyway, the point is the fines are completely meaningless and they don't work as a deterrent.

I have to disagree. Severity of injury absolutely matters.

Sure, what could have happened draws pause.

But what DID happen matters more.

They have the repeat offender list to help extend suspensions.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Whether you think it should or not, the reality is severity of injury does matter and is often cited by the NHL as a factor in its determinations.

Just like prior history of supplemental discipline factors in, which a fine is essentially establishing a record for potential future incidents.

The reality is if Crookshank didn't initially appear to be injured, nobody would be talking about fines or suspensions, or whether it's a deterrent, it would have been a nothing minor for interference that the world would have quickly forgotten about.

Well Rielly was suspended for 5 games with no prior record and no injury to Greig. Ultimately, intent overrules the other factors. For instance, a player who knocks another player out for the entire season because of a dangerous play doesn't get suspended for the whole season. Or, a player who doesn't demonstrate intent on a play that results in a long term injury often gets no supplemental discipline at all. The DoPS' evaluation is mostly centered around intent and then considers other factors like previous supplemental discipline, in-game factors, etc.

 

[Micklebot]

Well Rielly was suspended for 5 games with no prior record and no injury to Greig. Ultimately, intent overrules the other factors. For instance, a player who knocks another player out for the entire season because of a dangerous play doesn't get suspended for the whole season. Or, a player who doesn't demonstrate intent on a play that results in a long term injury often gets no supplemental discipline at all. The DoPS' evaluation is mostly centered around intent and then considers other factors like previous supplemental discipline, in-game factors, etc.

Reilly took a crosscheck to Greig head, Byram threw a pick on an unsuspecting crookshank, these aren't remotely comparable situations leading me to wonder why you'd bring it up. Of course the former got a more severe punishment, and had Greig been seriously hurt, that punishment would have been even longer.

Specific action matters, Intent matters, injury suffered matters, past his history matter, they all matter, and they all should be factored in to varying degrees.