Include all player who is not established in NHL What I saw from some CHL game, NCAA, U17, U18 - U20, Jrn A challenge, Memorial Cup, Rookie tournament and pre-season. I don't see the games in europe (Liiga,SHL,KHL) therefore international tournaments is really important for me to evaluate them. The problem is that it's small tournaments in a short time , so i don't have the best vision for some Euro player I'm a french canadian who does not speak English very well . I have a description for every player in top 50 in french but translate it into English is too long for me . If you have any question about these player or question about my rankings , i will do my best , but keep in head that i'm not talk well your languages My first list is there , one year ago . Keller was 1 , McCavoy 3 , Boeser 11 , Girard 19 . If I look at it a year later, I think it's a decent list http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/butch-list-115.2178829/ Cale Makar Thomas Chabot Ellias Petterson Kyle Connor Tyson Jost Kirill Kaprizov Jesse Puljujarvi Eeli Tolvanen Casey Mittelstadt Timothy Liljegren Miro Heinskanen Martin Necas Lias Andersson Adam Fox Nick Suzuki Dylan Strome Klim Kostin Oli Juolevi Kristian Vesalainen Janne Kuokkonen Filip Chytil Ryan Poehling Kale Clague Dante Fabbro Tage Thompson Alex Tuch Luke Kunin Robert Thomas Phillipe Myers Victor Mete Cal Foote Jordan Greenway Erik Brannstrom Juuso Valimaki Jack Roslovic Joel Eriksson-Ek Logan Brown Kailer Yammamoto Alexander Nylander Connor Timmins Aleksi Heponiemi Sam Steel Cody Glass Kieffer Bellows Rasmus Andersson Henri Jokiharju Colin White Owen Tippet Gabriel Villardi Michael Rasmussen Denis Malgin Josh Ho-Sang Troy Terry Daniel Sprong Julius Honka Michael McLoed Sebastian Aho Jacob Forbascka-Karlsson Kasperi Kapanen Henrik Borgstrom Adam Gaudette Jordan Kyrou Taylor Raddysh Gabriel Carlsson Chad Krys Josh Norris Josh Mahura Anthony De Angelo Jake Bean Sami Niku Nikolay Guldobin Nicolas Hague Jacob Larsson Olivier Kylington Brendan Guhle Cliff Pu Vitaly Abramov Rasmus Asplund Oscar Lindblom Wade Allison Jonathan Dahlen Trent Frederic Caleb Jones Noah Juulsen Nicolas Roy Jake Evans Vladislav Kamenev Evgeni Svechnikov Jonathan Dahlen Max Gildon Dylan Samberg Ryan Donato Denis Gurianov Julien Gauthier Aapeli Rasanen Max Jones Pier-Olivier Joseph Alexandre Texier Drake Batherson Riley Tufte Anatoly Golishev Mike Amadio Urho Vaakanainen Andrei Mironov Cam Morrison Dennis Cholowski Morgan Frost Adam Mascherin Kole Lind Shane Bowers Andrew Nielsen Michael Dal Colle Alex Formenton Tanner Laczynski Travis Dermott Nic Merkley Eemeli Rasanen Lucas Johansen Jonah Gadjovich Anthony Cirelli Samuel Morin Libor Hajek Tyler Stenbergen Joni Ikonen Lukas Elvenes Jesper Boqvist Patrick Harper Joey Anderson Boris Katchouk Nikita Scherbak Nic Petan Steleo Matthoes Maxim Comtois Jason Robertson Otto Koivula Jeremy Lauzon German Rubstov Marcus Davidsson Ethan Bear Dillon Dube Zach Senyshin Rudolf Balcers Yegor Korshov Mathieu Joseph Kyle Wood Logan Stanley Eetu Tuulola Ryan Lindgren Jacob Moverare Yakov Trenin Mitchell Vande Sompel Jonas Rondberg Erik Foley Yegor Sharangovich Goalie : Igor Shestorkyn Filip Gustavsson Ilya Samsonov Tchatcher Demko Ilya Sorokin Carter Hart Colton Pont Connor Ingram Jake Oettinger Tyler Parsons
If Andrew Neilson is 113, than Dermott deserves to be about 100 spots higher. He's the Leafs 7th or 8th best prospect.
100 to 160 is pretty random but never that Dermott has such a big gap with Nielsen . Dermott is pretty good offensively and play a smart game but he is still a small left defensemen who does not have the wow factor . No dominant skills at all . Nielsen is big and strong with a very good shot . He don't have the IQ of Dermott but still had a good first pass . If you have Dermott ahead of Nielsen i understand but never that Nielsen and Dermott had this gap in my book . You probably see Marlies more often so maybe you're right too
Thanks. Lot of people will find 1-2 player who will be too low , it's okay and normal . The games I saw, Lind did not impress me . Part of scouting i guest . I can see 3 match of such a player when you need nothing good on the ice and you see 4 match where he fills the goal , it's happens
The gap is pretty significant. Dermott is the Leafs 3rd best prospect, Neilson somewhere around 7-10. Personally I have him ranked lower (just going with a consensus) as he has major skating issues, laterally, pivoting etc. He gets exposed on the regular. His decision making leaves alot to be desired as well.
To be a nhl ready , i say yes is a top 10 . Chytil is so strong that he can play with men but i have to go for long term and i prefer the skilz package of Suzuki/Andersson/Necas for that .
because the people say that Dermott is the 3rd prospect that it becomes a fact? No . And it's not a list that follows a consensus . I love debating about these prospect but leave the consensus alone, this is not an argument . Funny because last year i don't have ranked Nielsen and I got quibbled and this time is the opposite
Leafs fans last year ''The Leafs best prospect after Kapanen is Andrew Nielsen (maybe he is 3rd to Grundstrom). Personally, I'd switch him from Bracco.'' Time fly
You don't seem to know much about Leaf prospects, so I'll leave it alone. It's tough putting together a list this extensive, so it's understandable.
Impressive list. Bruins with 7 in the top 150, and I think you got the order of them almost exact. I would have Zboril in there too, but everyone will have some quibble. Nice job.
Chytil is the most skilled player there though.. Andersson isn’t exactly that skilled though coming from a Rangers fan. He just thinks the game highly and has a better shot
Just curious... why are Jost and Chabot included on your list but not Hishier and Patrick? The Avs fan in me loves to see Makar at #1 even though my brain may not necessarily agree. Good one.
Nice to see 2 Canucks prospects in the top 20 and Petterson at 3. 7 in the overall list as well. Oh and Dahlen is too low.