GDT: burly midwestern hockeymen from ohio penetrate small, skillful hockeymens tight d

[Wolfpuck]

This is not how you make the playoffs.

 

[CandyCanes]

Flyers are still somehow worse then the Canes in OT ...I don't know how.

They just lost 3 in row via OT lol

 

[Breakdowns]

I will say this - f*** shootout - continuous 3 vs 3 OT needs to happen, how long they will not score in that format? I would say maximum of 10 minutes and there would be a goal

 

[Tryamw]

But We should be "proud" We're second best at Sucking in OT.! (At least we are second best at something!.)

 

[HisIceness]

This is not how you make the playoffs.

I bet if I tallied all the crucial points this team has pissed away starting with the 09/10 season to now, it would be about 100 or so standings points, enough to make the playoffs.

 

[Identity404]

The advantage of playing a team on the back end of a back-to-back is a bit overrated, especially this early in the season.

CBUS is a good team.

 

[Roboturner913]

Without getting on Faulk too much, because I thought he played well overall, he made two decisions in the OT that I just can't understand:

1) got the puck with plenty of time near his own blueline with plenty time and space to clear. Took a little muffin bounce off the board, CBJ picks it up easily and regroups just outside of their zone, forcing us back. Why? Hammer that **** off the boards, at that angle you'll get a two-banker, no icing, and a chance to line change

2) passed on an obvious pinch that could've gotten us a 2 on 1. I don't really understand playing it that conservative in OT - the point is preserved and this team has little or no upside in getting it to a shootout. This is probably more on coaching, but surely they have the stats that show we suck **** in shootout. Why not just be aggressive in OT when you have the chance?

 

[Joe McGrath]

Without getting on Faulk too much, because I thought he played well overall, he made two decisions in the OT that I just can't understand:

1) got the puck with plenty of time near his own blueline with plenty time and space to clear. Took a little muffin bounce off the board, CBJ picks it up easily and regroups just outside of their zone, forcing us back. Why? Hammer that **** off the boards, at that angle you'll get a two-banker, no icing, and a chance to line change

2) passed on an obvious pinch that could've gotten us a 2 on 1. I don't really understand playing it that conservative in OT - the point is preserved and this team has little or no upside in getting it to a shootout. This is probably more on coaching, but surely they have the stats that show we suck **** in shootout. Why not just be aggressive in OT when you have the chance?

Faulk has absolutely no hockey IQ. He’s kind of a hockey robot. 3 on 3 isn’t programmed into him so he just keeps playing as if it’s 5 on 5.

 

[Joe McGrath]

For the record, if they won this shootout the Canes would have the most shootout wins in the league.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

this isn't a game they pissed away. cbus was flat out better. solid goaltending got the canes a point, on to the next one.

I will say this - **** shootout - continuous 3 vs 3 OT needs to happen, how long they will not score in that format? I would say maximum of 10 minutes and there would be a goal

permanent 3v3vot, goalie cant freeze the puck.

 

[Negan4Coach]

Don't hold your breath. Ronnie likes what he's got. Maybe after 5-6 more seasons of the same, we can begin to explore a big trade.

Besides, we won last game before this so everything is fine.

I don't get it. Its the SAME every year already. Other opponents play their backup goalies against us pretty much every game. We still lose. Especially in OT or shootout.

At the end of each year we rearrange some deck chairs on the titanic. Make some modest improvements. Then random teams like the BJs or Flyers or Devils or whomever all make WAY BETTER changes somehow, and actually play with better results. A team that misses the playoffs retools and is back in it again right away.I mean look at Boston. They managed to win with literally their entire AHL team on the ice due to injuries and freaking Khudobin in net. The Canes have one injury. Can you imagine what would happen if a couple of more guys went down? Tampa Bay loses Big Ben and does even better without him.

We're all happy about Slavin and Aho and we should be. And the team as a whole looks better. they certainly are fast. But our opponents all look better too- like all these other teams draft multiple Slavins and/or Ahos every stinking year and just cycle through them. And more importantly they have the will to win. To actually hold a one goal lead, to gut it out in OT instead of wilt, etc.

That's why I continue to think its an organizational problem, from top to bottom. A culture of mental fragility from the owner on down. Hopefully Karmonous fires himself soon enough by selling. Until then, if they can't manage to turn it around this season and make the playoffs, they need to shit-can every swinging richard from the season ticket salesmen right on up to the GM. Just flush it and bring in people who have NEVER been involved with this team in any way shape of form. Plus a coach and a GM who have actually done both jobs before.

 

[Dishface]

Wow, that was the worst shootout I’ve ever seen.

I'm sure you remember the historic Justin Peters shootout. That was the worst one.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I don't get it. Its the SAME every year already. Other opponents play their backup goalies against us pretty much every game. We still lose. Especially in OT or shootout.

At the end of each year we rearrange some deck chairs on the titanic. Make some modest improvements. Then random teams like the BJs or Flyers or Devils or whomever all make WAY BETTER changes somehow, and actually play with better results. A team that misses the playoffs retools and is back in it again right away.I mean look at Boston. They managed to win with literally their entire AHL team on the ice due to injuries and freaking Khudobin in net. The Canes have one injury. Can you imagine what would happen if a couple of more guys went down? Tampa Bay loses Big Ben and does even better without him.

We're all happy about Slavin and Aho and we should be. And the team as a whole looks better. they certainly are fast. But our opponents all look better too- like all these other teams draft multiple Slavins and/or Ahos every stinking year and just cycle through them. And more importantly they have the will to win. To actually hold a one goal lead, to gut it out in OT instead of wilt, etc.

That's why I continue to think its an organizational problem, from top to bottom. A culture of mental fragility from the owner on down. Hopefully Karmonous fires himself soon enough by selling. Until then, if they can't manage to turn it around this season and make the playoffs, they need to ****-can every swinging richard from the season ticket salesmen right on up to the GM. Just flush it and bring in people who have NEVER been involved with this team in any way shape of form. Plus a coach and a GM who have actually done both jobs before.

New winner for unhinged rant of the month in GDT. With no games left in November, good timing!

 

[Joe McGrath]

I will say this - **** shootout - continuous 3 vs 3 OT needs to happen, how long they will not score in that format? I would say maximum of 10 minutes and there would be a goal

You know they are terrible at 3 on 3 too, right?

 

[the halleJOKEL]

I don't get it. Its the SAME every year already. Other opponents play their backup goalies against us pretty much every game. We still lose. Especially in OT or shootout.

At the end of each year we rearrange some deck chairs on the titanic. Make some modest improvements. Then random teams like the BJs or Flyers or Devils or whomever all make WAY BETTER changes somehow, and actually play with better results. A team that misses the playoffs retools and is back in it again right away.I mean look at Boston. They managed to win with literally their entire AHL team on the ice due to injuries and freaking Khudobin in net. The Canes have one injury. Can you imagine what would happen if a couple of more guys went down? Tampa Bay loses Big Ben and does even better without him.

We're all happy about Slavin and Aho and we should be. And the team as a whole looks better. they certainly are fast. But our opponents all look better too- like all these other teams draft multiple Slavins and/or Ahos every stinking year and just cycle through them. And more importantly they have the will to win. To actually hold a one goal lead, to gut it out in OT instead of wilt, etc.

That's why I continue to think its an organizational problem, from top to bottom. A culture of mental fragility from the owner on down. Hopefully Karmonous fires himself soon enough by selling. Until then, if they can't manage to turn it around this season and make the playoffs, they need to ****-can every swinging richard from the season ticket salesmen right on up to the GM. Just flush it and bring in people who have NEVER been involved with this team in any way shape of form. Plus a coach and a GM who have actually done both jobs before.

woah

 

[vorbis]

New winner for unhinged rant of the month in GDT. With no games left in November, good timing!

winner in a shootout

 

[tarheelhockey]

Without getting on Faulk too much, because I thought he played well overall, he made two decisions in the OT that I just can't understand:

1) got the puck with plenty of time near his own blueline with plenty time and space to clear. Took a little muffin bounce off the board, CBJ picks it up easily and regroups just outside of their zone, forcing us back. Why? Hammer that **** off the boards, at that angle you'll get a two-banker, no icing, and a chance to line change

2) passed on an obvious pinch that could've gotten us a 2 on 1. I don't really understand playing it that conservative in OT - the point is preserved and this team has little or no upside in getting it to a shootout. This is probably more on coaching, but surely they have the stats that show we suck **** in shootout. Why not just be aggressive in OT when you have the chance?

I would add to that, his inexplicable positioning on the final rush of the game, flat-out gifting Columbus (Atkinson?) a high quality shot that probably should have been a goal. I mean Faulk literally GAVE the man a path to the net on a straight-line play all the way down the ice. There’s just no reason whatsoever that should happen.

 

[Caniackid]

Was at the Nashville Chicago game, should I be super pissed and calling for everyone to be traded and kirk laviricers to be fired or are we going about to win multiple Stanley Cups?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I'm sure you remember the historic Justin Peters shootout. That was the worst one.

I don't typically watch the shootout. Partly because they always lose, and partly because it's boring as f*** to watch (to me). Not the best way to end a game.

This one I only watched because it was during a commercial break of the CW's Superhero special.

 

[HisIceness]

Was at the Nashville Chicago game, should I be super pissed and calling for everyone to be traded and kirk laviricers to be fired or are we going about to win multiple Stanley Cups?

If OT/SO losses count as winning Stanley Cups, oh man, the 90's Chicago Bulls got nothing on us #repeat3peat.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I don't typically watch the shootout. Partly because they always lose, and partly because it's boring as **** to watch (to me). Not the best way to end a game.

This one I only watched because it was during a commercial break of the CW's Superhero special.

It’s 5 min and it’s exciting in a boring sort of way.

Kinda like if you were competing with your friend over $20 and flipping a coin best of three to see who won.

The actual action itself isn’t too terribly exciting, but the outcome is important enough that you are at least interested in observing.

 

[Wild Caniac]

I'm sure you remember the historic Justin Peters shootout. That was the worst one.

Please no.

 

[Stickpucker]

I don't get it. Its the SAME every year already. Other opponents play their backup goalies against us pretty much every game. We still lose. Especially in OT or shootout.

At the end of each year we rearrange some deck chairs on the titanic. Make some modest improvements. Then random teams like the BJs or Flyers or Devils or whomever all make WAY BETTER changes somehow, and actually play with better results. A team that misses the playoffs retools and is back in it again right away.I mean look at Boston. They managed to win with literally their entire AHL team on the ice due to injuries and freaking Khudobin in net. The Canes have one injury. Can you imagine what would happen if a couple of more guys went down? Tampa Bay loses Big Ben and does even better without him.

We're all happy about Slavin and Aho and we should be. And the team as a whole looks better. they certainly are fast. But our opponents all look better too- like all these other teams draft multiple Slavins and/or Ahos every stinking year and just cycle through them. And more importantly they have the will to win. To actually hold a one goal lead, to gut it out in OT instead of wilt, etc.

That's why I continue to think its an organizational problem, from top to bottom. A culture of mental fragility from the owner on down. Hopefully Karmonous fires himself soon enough by selling. Until then, if they can't manage to turn it around this season and make the playoffs, they need to ****-can every swinging richard from the season ticket salesmen right on up to the GM. Just flush it and bring in people who have NEVER been involved with this team in any way shape of form. Plus a coach and a GM who have actually done both jobs before.

I do agree we improve by inches while other teams improve by feet. Overall I think Peters and Francis are both a little too conservative....you have to take some risks to make noticeable improvement in the short term. Otherwise you take 12 years of an inch to get that foot.

 

[GoldiFox]

We need a big ole cheese plate in here to go with all this whine. Coming back from a deficit in the 3rd and taking Columbus to the SO isn't going to sink the Canes Playoff hopes. Darling played a great game.

3v3 should be treated by the players like (American) Football. The #1 most important thing to winning is the turnover battle. At least 3-4 times the Canes just fumbled or threw away the puck. That is tough to do when a team only gets so many possessions. For me that seems like a coaching issue. Their whole 3v3 strategy seems disorganized.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Yep, Why Francis and Peters couldn't be like the Flyers and Devils and win the lottery last year is inexcusable. Why he didn't trade Hanifin for Duchene is beyond me. Imagine how much more scoring the team would have. Why they won't he spend $7M more (like the NJD) or $13M more (like the Flyers)? And why did they waste their time bring in a 25G, 50 point winger with experience this off season and go after one of the most sought after goalies? What were they thinking as those weren't areas of need for the Canes.

Wait, I thought against the Rangers, it was an issue with Brind'Amour (the cancer), Friesen and Marcoux? I'm confused now.

If you want to know why the team is a marginal team, look no further than the guy at the top (PK) and his bottom of the league payroll. Other than Arizona (who also has a cheap young team that struggles), no other team is within $6M of the Canes. It's nice to say the Canes should go after player x, y or z, but until old PK opens the purse strings, it isn't likely, especially with raises coming to some key guys.