Value of: Buffalo and Ottawa
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Team Cozens
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We would need to send more money back with Eichel's contract kicking in....
ROR
Okposo (20% retained)
2018 2nd
for
Karlsson
Ryan
ROR
Okposo (20% retained)
2018 2nd
for
Karlsson
Ryan
Vancouver Canucks
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We would need to send more money back with Eichel's contract kicking in....
ROR
Okposo (20% retained)
2018 2nd
for
Karlsson
Ryan
I think Ottawa needs to add.
Qward
Because! That's why!
We would need to send more money back with Eichel's contract kicking in....
ROR
Okposo (20% retained)
2018 2nd
for
Karlsson
Ryan
Jokes aside (Karlsson) is the money a budget thing or cap hit thing?
Because if it is a cap hit thing, if the trade was made after July 1st and ROR's bonus is picked up by Buffalo I am sure Ottawa could take Matt Moulson back and up the value or number of prospects going back.
Colin White, Logan Brown are not likely to be moved and Chabot is in the same boat.
That being said, Ottawa still has a plethora of young talent in the pipeline.
Andreas Englund is a stay at home D with size and work ethic. Former U20 World Junior Captain.
Alex Formenton might have seen his handy work in the World Junior this year.
Nick Paul, Chris Driedger, Christian Jaros, Ville Pokka, etc.
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That is disgustingWe would need to send more money back with Eichel's contract kicking in....
ROR
Okposo (20% retained)
2018 2nd
for
Karlsson
Ryan
Ryan O'Reilly won't be traded for anything less than a top pairing defenseman or someone with that potential. If your asking them to take on that Bobby Ryan deal as well it will only increase the price. I don't see a fit without Karlsson being included.
MackAttack26
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How generous of you to look for a ROR <-> Ryan swap while not giving up any top prospects. But we politely decline.
You're asking for a 1st line center signed for several more years in his prime, asking the Sabres to take on one of the worst contracts in the NHL in Bobby Ryan, and your pulling Karlsson and all your top prospects and players off the table?
You aren't getting a 1C (while also dumping a huge cap dump) for a pile of Maybe's from a team that is looking to make its way out of the basement. Offer up some real quality that can help now.
We might have to re-consider. He is putting Alex Formenton and Andreas Englund on the table!
Qward
Because! That's why!
I said white brown and chabot are "unlikely" to be moved, not that they are unavailable.
We also have the Penguins 1st, Batherson, Chaplik and Harpur.
If you dont think a deal can be made, then fine. That I why I asked.
We also have the Penguins 1st, Batherson, Chaplik and Harpur.
If you dont think a deal can be made, then fine. That I why I asked.
Why would Buffalo even enter into deal where Ryan is the primary return when offering up O’Reilly. I doubt they would.
That's atrocious for buffalo. Half of that package is fair value for karlsson
stempniaksen
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You started off on the wrong foot by mentioning Bobby Ryan. He's a poison pill and I don't blame other fanbases for waiting on arm and a leg to take him on. We might have the pieces to make an ROR trade without Bobby attached, but I have a hard time seeing anything that makes sense with Ryan in the deal.
Not sure ROR is a particularly great fit for a team looking to get younger and faster anyways. Would rather keep our assets and play White/Dzingel in the top-six.
Just out of curiosity - whats the general feeling on Duchene? Is there any talks of extending, or is the general feeling hes going to leave next year?
This is a weird base for a trade. It's like asking what would Philly would want in addition to Polak in order to get Couturier. ROR is very good player with a lot of value. Ryan has a ton of negative value so I don't even know how you start a trade around these two players. If Ottawa wanted ROR you start with an asset of value and leave Ryan out altogether.
stempniaksen
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He seems generally happy here, even with all the off-ice shenanigans going on. He's also playing extremely well after his ice cold start here. I don't think anyone else will give him more money than the Sens, based on what we gave up to get him. He's also closer to home than he would be anywhere else (minus Toronto) so maybe that factors in as well.
If Karlsson is moved this summer all bets are off, as he's clearly not game for another teardown and rebuild at this point in his career. To his credit though, he's definitely saying all the right things so far.
My guess is Karlsson gets traded in the off season we resign Duchene and stone and build around that top line of hoff duche stone. I'm Not for trading Karlsson but I'd be okay with it if we get a good young defensemen like Chabot plus a few picks and decent prospects. I am against ottawa lowering his value with Ryan... trade gaborik with him less of a hindrance since any team taking him could afford to buy him out.
I don' think all bets are off if we trade Karlsson if we get a good return of guys who are nhl ready and maybe look to ufa. We could do a quick 1 -3 year rebuild and have a very solid team.
got it. If nothing else, he seems to be media-friendly and keep everything inside the room, as it sounds like he did mostly the same stuff in Colorado. Hopefully the sens get to keep everyone. I'd hate to see a team lose out just because of a bad owner.
tony d
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Yeah think Karlsson is a guy Buffalo would want in such a trade. In that case we'd want Ristolainen back as well as a 2018 1st and Mittelstadt with O'reilly for Karlsson and Ryan.
Sabresruletheschool
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So are you saying Toronto would offer
Nylander
Marner
Reilly
2nd
For
Karlsson
Ryan
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