Brian Dumoulin

[Will Hunting]

Still a big fan of him, the thing is I just do not get it anymore... Guy went from being the rock to playing awful hockey. Among our worst performers nigh in and nigh out, this year. All of that when I thought that he is fully ready to become an effective part of our core. Right now tho, he is doing everything wrong.. not only is he irrelevant offensively, he creates defensive lapses as well. I think his level of play this season is absolutely unacceptable and it is an underrated part of why we are where we are now...

He better gets his **** together soon, because you can´t have a player playing like this on your first pair, unless you are a lottery chaser. Not sure what to think anymore. I just don´t understand how can a guy with such a solid, reliable game in his prime go from a hero to the zero just like this. Probably, separating him from Letang could be an idea...

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[Pancakes]

Still a big fan of him, the thing is I just do not get it anymore... Guy went from being the rock to playing awful hockey. Among our worst performers nigh in and nigh out, this year. All of that when I thought that he is fully ready to become an effective part of our core. Right now tho, he is doing everything wrong.. not only is he irrelevant offensively, he creates defensive lapses as well. I think his level of play this season is absolutely unacceptable and it is an underrated part of why we are where we are now...

He better gets his **** together soon, because you can´t have a player playing like this on your first pair, unless you are a lottery chaser. Not sure what to think anymore. I just don´t understand how can a guy with such a solid, reliable game in his prime go from a hero to the zero just like this. Probably, separating him from Letang could be an idea...

The whole d looks like a train wreck so it's hard to get a read on Dumo. Maatta's game has been putrid lately too imo. Tonight I thought he was garbage.

 

[Will Hunting]

The whole d looks like a train wreck so it's hard to get a read on Dumo. Maatta's game has been putrid lately too imo. Tonight I thought he was garbage.

Maatta, surprisingly enough, is the only one making progress. He is getting a bit unlucky especially in the offensive side of things, but I feel like he is doing lot of good things. Unlike Dumoulin.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

Well he's been with Letang most of the year, so I'm sure THAT"S not helping his game. Watch when they move Dumo from Letang and he'll magically get better

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

He is struggling out there but so is pretty much everyone else
Things will get better in his case, especially when Schultz returns

 

[Gurglesons]

Dumoulin is a solid player, but he is a #3 on his best days. Do people not remember him being a scratch last year?

I.E. Draisital. How many players get paid for having a couple good weeks from April to June?

 

[hooverdam]

I've always thought Dumoulin was better when he had to be the more mobile player on his pairing. He looked good with Hainsey in the playoffs, he came into his own against all odds while dragging Scuderi around the ice that first year, and he looked good with Lovejoy. He's never been a point producer but I think he was always underrated as a puck-moving defenseman, and that part of his game has been completely crushed.

When Lovejoy left, it seemed the Penguins wanted Dumoulin to be the new stable, stay-at-home defenseman they keep drafting of late. I don't think that really gets the most out of him. It's certainly turned what used to be a really good possession defenseman into a terrible one, which is a damn shame.

 

[cheesedanish87]

I loved Dumoulin when he was making under a million.

Now that hes making 4 million i can't stand him.

He would be one of the guys I'd be looking to move.

 

[Jacob]

Dumoulin is infuriating but I see no reason to move him. It's not a position of strength, and we have basically zero D prospects.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

He's been such a rock the past two years that his poor play this season is puzzling. Would give him more time before turning on him. Maatta on the other hand is much better this year than the last two.

 

[SEALBound]

I don't think any of them are playing to their potential. That said, the forwards and the D-zone system are certainly not helping the matter.

 

[Pens x]

I was ridiculed for saying JR overpaid him this summer...

He’s a bottom pairing dman on teams with actual depth at d.

 

[Beauner]

He's really not that bad...waaay down the list on what our problems have been so far

 

[Beauner]

I was ridiculed for saying JR overpaid him this summer...

He’s a bottom pairing dman on teams with actual depth at d.

Yeah you can't possibly win a Stanley Cup with him playing top pairing minutes.....

oh wait. You can. Twice.

 

[Night Shift]

I don't think any of them are playing to their potential. That said, the forwards and the D-zone system are certainly not helping the matter.

I think they get it together late this year or next year

 

[Pens x]

Yeah you can't possibly win a Stanley Cup with him playing top pairing minutes.....

oh wait. You can. Twice.

As I said back then, just because a guy plays a lot of minutes or plays on a orticjkar line doesn’t mean they are that good. Dumo played so many minutes because we had no one else. Is Mike DeSmith an nhl starting goalie since he dressed for a game or two? I guess Riley Sheehan is a third line center since that’s where he plays here.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

As I said back then, just because a guy plays a lot of minutes or plays on a orticjkar line doesn’t mean they are that good. Dumo played so many minutes because we had no one else. Is Mike DeSmith an nhl starting goalie since he dressed for a game or two? I guess Riley Sheehan is a third line center since that’s where he plays here.

Are you saying that Dumo performed poorly the last 2 seasons? I really hope you're not because that's an ideologue you don't want to be married to

 

[Gurglesons]

Are you saying that Dumo performed poorly the last 2 seasons? I really hope you're not because that's an ideologue you don't want to be married to

I definitey think there is an argument to Dumoulin not being the stud some people want to paint him as ( I own a Dumo jersey). He is a solid #3 or 4. Nothing more, I still remember people saying he was a bonafided #1 in the playoffs last year.

 

[KIRK]

I was ridiculed for saying JR overpaid him this summer...

He’s a bottom pairing dman on teams with actual depth at d.

No, you were ridiculed for ridiculing that deal in one breath and calling on JR to sign Martin Hanzal for 4.75M per in another breath.

 

[Jacob]

Dumoulin and Hanzal have the same amount of points.

 

[KIRK]

Dumoulin and Hanzal have the same amount of points.

 

[Beauner]

I definitey think there is an argument to Dumoulin not being the stud some people want to paint him as ( I own a Dumo jersey). He is a solid #3 or 4. Nothing more, I still remember people saying he was a bonafided #1 in the playoffs last year.

I don't disagree necessarily. It maybe was a stretch to call him a bona-fide #1 just as it's a gross exaggeration to call him a bottom-pairing guy. Fans love to swing to one extreme or the other. In reality, he's in the middle. A reliable, if not great middle-pairing guy who can succeed for stretches playing top-pairing minutes. Is he your standard top pairing guy? Absolutely not. But he can hold his own and he's shown it considering he was a #2 and de-facto #1 on two championship teams.

As I said back then, just because a guy plays a lot of minutes or plays on a orticjkar line doesn’t mean they are that good. Dumo played so many minutes because we had no one else. Is Mike DeSmith an nhl starting goalie since he dressed for a game or two? I guess Riley Sheehan is a third line center since that’s where he plays here.

Yeah, let me know when Casey DeSmith or Sheahan play a crucial part in a team that wins a championship

 

[Gurglesons]

I don't disagree necessarily. It maybe was a stretch to call him a bona-fide #1 just as it's a gross exaggeration to call him a bottom-pairing guy. Fans love to swing to one extreme or the other. In reality, he's in the middle. A reliable, if not great middle-pairing guy who can succeed for stretches playing top-pairing minutes. Is he your standard top pairing guy? Absolutely not. But he can hold his own and he's shown it considering he was a #2 and de-facto #1 on two championship teams.

Here is what I disagree with. He was a #1 last year in the playoffs in the Nashville series. Maatta and Schultz stepped up in the Ottawa and Washington series.

In 2016, he was next to Conn Smythe level Letang.

Even on his best days, I think Dumo is a #3. He doesn’t have the offensive game to go above that.

 

[wgknestrick]

Dumo has never been good for a significant period of time, and I've been trying to tell anyone here with a open brain that for the last 2 years. He's basically Mark Eaton, but makes 4mil/year. He just exists. No offense, average defense, ices it a ton. PIT management couldn't wait to lock him up with term.

 

[chethejet]

I think DUMO playing with Schultz is a far better fit for him. He is a very under rated skater. Watch him turn and skate with McDavid for instance and force him wide. Very few have that capability. He is not a good fit with Letang. He is a great fit with a solid guy who doesn't put him in high risk positions. Cole would be a great fit with Letang as his physical play would take the body out of the odd man rushes. But Dumo is a very good D man no matter what number one decides he is.