Brian Burke Claim there is a Big Split on Replacement Players ..

[me2]

That's because Smart Businessmen know that it takes money to make money .. and the more your Spend the more opportunity you have to make more ...

The old you get what you pay for cliché ...


Which option is more preferable and profitable to Microsoft ??

Would a company like Microsoft make more or less money, by outlaying more in development, recruitment of higher skilled employees, buying out the competition, marketing and growing their business, using its financial clout as an advantage, or should Bill Gates cap spending and bring them more inline with their competition to make MORE PROFIT ?? ?

Until Bill Gates has banned all competition from his marketplace then that argument makes no sense.

 

[CREW99AW]

I thought every owner was on the same page and had pledged their unwavering, undying love and support for Bettman?

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and I thought every player was on the same page, saying they'd never accept a cap,would stay out as long as it took to get a deal without a cap.

 

[PecaFan]

http://ordinaryleastsquare.typepad.com/dubi/2004/03/reading_compreh.html

I suggest you read this link.

Hmm, still the same old crap that was there the first 300 times this "dubious" web page was brought up.

The bulk of that criticism is smoke and mirrors, irrelevant stuff (except for the outright attempt at character assassination on Levitt, of course). "Ooh, Bettman said salary, when he really meant player costs!" "You won't find Net Revenue in an Accounting book!!".

My favourite parts are the bits where he criticises Levitt for correcting the URO's so they'll be accurate. Evidently in Dubi's world, basing his report on inaccurate info is preferable.

And of course, you absolutely half to love when Dubious "proves" that Levitt was out $50 million dollars or more, by multiplying attendance by a totally meaningless "average seat cost" estimated by a third party.

The PA accepts the numbers. They're right. Dubi is wrong.

 

[thinkwild]

Well as the Flyers president said, the URO's arent they way they account for revenues themselves. It isnt the books they are looking at when making financial decisions. And obviously, it is not the books they would submit to the taxman. Its a representation of some single business. No surprise that URO's accurately represent the information the UROs ask to be captured.

And of course its not consistent with salary cap leagues, because, well, they have salary caps and measure it differently.

Forbes offered the league a chance to sit and explain why Forbes'; numbers wrong. The league declined.

 

[thinkwild]

And interestingly, Levitts PR work notwithstanding, and months of meeting between the PA and league on defining revenue at a time when Bettman said they werent negotiating, today, they are still trying to define revenues and enforcement.

If they cheat on their revenues, the cap is lifted?

 

[hockeytown9321]

The PA accepts the numbers. They're right. Dubi is wrong.

When did this happen?

 

[Mighty Duck]

You know, you really should THINK about what you write before you start posting. You don't see the great irony when its your players union holding the association together by threatening to take away pay or force the membership to pay it back should they cross the line and play for a team without NHLPA approval? Yeah, that's a great way to send a message about PA solidarity to the WORLD that all's well in the NHLPA world!



That is the deal the owners made when they signed on. That is the deal the owners made when they agreed to give Bettman the power to negotiate this solution. They all read the fine print and they all knew where this was headed all the way back to 1999. The league has given the teams plenty of options, its up to the teams to select the one that works best for them.



Yup, that would sure show the league. It would sure show the fan base as well! We can't compete without over-spending as we do have the incompetant management that you think we do, and we'll prove it by icing the worst product possible! Again, do you bother to think before you post?

Here's something very interesting for the replacement player argument. Here are the rosters of the Washington Capitals (a random team) from 1999-2000. This is really only four seasons ago, but it shows the incredible turnover that a team will face in a very short time.

1999-2000

77 Adam Oates (Edmonton)
55 Sergei Gonchar
17 Chris Simon (Calgary)
22 Steve Konowalchuk (Colorado)
12 Peter Bondra (Ottawa)
10 Ulf Dahlen (retired)
44 Richard Zednik (Montreal)
6 Calle Johansson (Toronto)
8 Jan Bulis (Montreal)
11 Jeff Halpern
13 Andrei Nikolishin (Colorado)
27 Terry Yake (Europe)
14 Joe Sacco (retired)
15 Dmitri Mironov
2 Ken Klee (Toronto)
20 Glen Metropolit
28 James Black (out of the system)
33 Jim McKenzie (Nashville)
19 Brendan Witt
29 Joe Reekie (Chicago)
21 Jeff Toms (out of the system)
* Jaroslav Svejkovsky (retired)
36 Mike Eagles (retired)
4 Alexei Tezikov (out of the system)
24 Rob Zettler (retired)
37 Olaf Kolzig
23 Miika Elomo (out of the system)
38 Nolan Baumgartner (out of the system)
25 Barrie Moore (out of the system)
39 Alexandre Volchkov (out of the system)
3 Jamie Huscroft (retired)
1 Craig Billington (retired)

That is six holdovers from four seasons ago, or only about 18% of the team remaining. The bottom line is that each and every year you are cheering for replacements, whether you want to admit it or not. Its the nature of the game. You PA folk have to get over it already. Most fans recognize this and have learned to cheer for the team, not the clowns in the jerseys.

Problem is, most of us PA folk know the difference between a good hockey player and a wanna be hockey player. Something like the (chesterfield management) wanna be owners and GM's on this board. It looks like most pro owners will go into a state of depression if the PA folk get their way. For you pro owner types, there is hope, you can watch basketball.

About the only thing I agree with Bettman is his statement that we must do what is right for hockey, and get a deal that both sides are happy with, not just the greedy owners. Can you imagine how many UFA's are busting down the door to try and sign with Boston after all the tantrums Jacobs has let loose with. He has no respect at all for any of the players, and the players will not forget. He will never win a Stanley Cup in his life time. So for you poor Boston fans who had to send Bourque to Colorado to win a Cup, it will happen again, and again, seeing your best players going to other teams to win a Cup, only because your owner is a bully.