Player Discussion: Brayden Point

[The Macho King]

Oh I'm sure he won't. But Yzerman managed to turn Steve Downie into Andrei Vasilevskiy and I'm optimistic that whatever we get for Namestnikov can be used to help us. For all we know someone will say, "We'll give you a 3rd for him." But at this point I just want to see us move on from Vladdy because he has the wrong kind of hockey IQ. He's good defensively but offensively he's terrible in open space, decision making and on-ice awareness.

I'm just ready to move on

Yeah, but Downie had that thing that GMs always overvalue and overpay for - truculence. And he produced fairly well on top of it beside MSL and Stammer. Vlad can't produce period.

I'm ready to move-on to, for the record, but I see the Vlad issue as separate and distinct from the Point/Johnson issue.

 

[These Are The Days]

Yeah, but Downie had that thing that GMs always overvalue and overpay for - truculence. And he produced fairly well on top of it beside MSL and Stammer. Vlad can't produce period.

I'm ready to move-on to, for the record, but I see the Vlad issue as separate and distinct from the Point/Johnson issue.

Fair enough. I'm just hoping we can somehow re-sign Boyle in the off-season and get some other addition by subtraction on the roster. Jon Cooper is about a C- coach but the loss of Filppula and his subsequent performance in Philadelphia shows us there have been several flaws in the Lightning roster. I feel like it's gonna be the same for Namestnikov.

 

[The Macho King]

Boyle coming back is a pipe dream. Don't expect that. First - I doubt we want to pay him what he wants (will likely want a raise from his 2.5m as it is), and second, the amount of times a guy has been traded and then re-signed with that team has to be in the single digits.

 

[Bolts265]

I'd rather just keep Johnson and Point behind Stamkos. Namestnikov is verging on the point of useless and if we're going to move a forward to upgrade the defense he's tops on my list. You can never have enough center depth but I'll be darned if that isn't lousy depth.

What idiot GM is going to give us a top 4 d man for this underperforming foward?

 

[dbieon12]

What idiot GM is going to give us a top 4 d man for this underperforming foward?

The Flyers. Hakstoll or Hextall or whoever it is.

 

[Volodya Krutov]

Namestnikov is a cheap depth player that can fill different positions. Why the **** would you move him, to get a 3rd rounder in return and break the bank to get another depth player via free agency ? I understand he really hasn't lived up to the expectations and that pissed everyone off, including me, but we gotta think rationally, not emotionally. Vladdy is "only" a disappointment, not an issue.


As for Johnson, I'd say keep him you can't have too much depth at center, and the idea to have Stamkos-Johnson-Point centering the first 3 lines makes drool.

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Looks like the guy from The Girl Next Door

 

[The Gongshow]

Would be fine with Point as #2 C if we can somehow trade Johnson for D

 

[Steazy Doo]

Should have sent him down when we had the chance.

 

[The Macho King]

Should have sent him down when we had the chance.

It's funny because he admits his time not playing let him step back and get better.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

It's funny because he admits his time not playing let him step back and get better.

Doesn't surprise me. I think it sort of matured him, gave him a better understanding of the NHL game.

 

[Steazy Doo]

It's funny because he admits his time not playing let him step back and get better.

That is funny

 

[Steazy Doo]

Doesn't surprise me. I think it sort of matured him, gave him a better understanding of the NHL game.

Did you name yourself after the meme, or because you're a big fan of JD, or as I believe, a combination of both?

 

[RDTBay4]

Is Point going to be unprotected for the expansion draft?

 

[Todd1a]

Is Point going to be unprotected for the expansion draft?

1st year pro does not have to be protected

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Did you name yourself after the meme, or because you're a big fan of JD, or as I believe, a combination of both?

Both my dude

 

[LightningStrikes]

Player|GP|G|A|P|+/-|PIM|S%|FO%
Tyler Johnson|66|19|26|45|-5|28|14.6|52.0
Brayden Point|68|18|22|40|+4|14|14.8|44.7

Not too bad for a rook.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Player|GP|G|A|P|+/-|PIM|S%|FO%
Tyler Johnson|66|19|26|45|-5|28|14.6|52.0
Brayden Point|68|18|22|40|+4|14|14.8|44.7

Not too bad for a rook.

He was on a 38-goal, 64-point pace since returning from injury.

 

[Sky04]

Had faith in Point from Day 1, yall haters finally saw what I've always known Point was capable of.

 

[Sky04]

Anyways, we need to keep both Point and Johnson while Point is on his ELC, makes no sense to get rid of one right now. Both are undersized centers and one or the other is going to get injured on a yearly basis. When Point is up for his raise, then it's time to trade Johnson. Until then, we need all the depth we can get.

 

[Steazy Doo]

Anyways, we need to keep both Point and Johnson while Point is on his ELC, makes no sense to get rid of one right now. Both are undersized centers and one or the other is going to get injured on a yearly basis. When Point is up for his raise, then it's time to trade Johnson. Until then, we need all the depth we can get.

Agreed my dood

 

[The Macho King]

Anyways, we need to keep both Point and Johnson while Point is on his ELC, makes no sense to get rid of one right now. Both are undersized centers and one or the other is going to get injured on a yearly basis. When Point is up for his raise, then it's time to trade Johnson. Until then, we need all the depth we can get.

I agree in that we shouldn't be *looking* to unload Johnson, but if the right deal came along I think Point has at least made it interesting.

I still think our forwards are pretty sick, though. Point on the third line with some of our skilled young guys - maybe Erne and someone else (Killorn if he isn't in Vegas?), gives us really nice depth.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Had faith in Point from Day 1, yall haters finally saw what I've always known Point was capable of.

So did I

I love when I am proven right when it comes to my optimism for a Bolt.

 

[LightningStrikes]

Point named 3rd star of the week: https://www.nhl.com/lightning/news/...oint-named-nhl-third-star-of-week/c-288648280

Point shared second place in the NHL with 4-2-6 in four games as the Lightning (42-30-10, 94 points) wrapped up their season with three victories in four starts.

After being held off the scoresheet in a 4-0 loss to the Boston Bruins April 4, Point bounced back with two goals - his second career multi-goal performance - in a 4-1 triumph over the Toronto Maple Leafs April 6.

He added one assist in a 4-2 win against the Montreal Canadiens April 7 before closing the season with a career-high three points (2-1-3), including the decisive goal, in a 4-2 victory over the Buffalo Sabres April 9.

The 21-year-old Calgary native finished 2016-17 eighth among rookies with 18-22-40 in 68 contests.

 

[RDTBay4]

His first NHL hype video!