Braves hire Alex Anthopolous

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  1. All Might

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    Yes, but Tulo has been horrendous for the Blue Jays since.
     
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    .... um no it wasn't. Under Beeston, he had final say on all baseball decisions, with Shapiro he would have lost that power. & at that point he had more than earned it.

    Its literally the same position he had when Copollela was GM.

    Shapiro was not the right hire for the job. He has a small market mentality in a big-market. Kenny Williams or Dan Duquette would have been much better hires.

    Its not untrue that people wanted to fire him in July of 2015.... but then he did the smart thing. He made two huge/bold trades to significantly upgrade his roster and push his team to the playoffs.
     
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    He literally doesn't.

    John Hart will transition away from his role as president of baseball operations and into a senior adviser role alongside Hall of Famers Bobby Cox and John Schuerholz.

    Braves to name Alex Anthopoulos as next general manager

    This is basically getting paid to show up a day or two a month.
     
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    The report I read said he would still be prez of baseball ops.

    Anyhow, makes sense. He needed to watch over Copollela as he was a rookie GM, AA can handle himself. Plus Hart is pretty much at retirement age.
     
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    Link?
     
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    I'm not sure exactly what was reported on paper but that is essentially what the issue was. Beeston handled the business side of things and as long as it was within their budget/reason AA could go out and do what he wanted. Which as you can see is what he did. Shaprio gets to make all the final decisions now, if not make the moves from the beginning now. That's why he brought in Atkins to be his puppet. Everyone knows it's Shapiro pulling the strings, no one actually considers Atkins to be the GM.

    I don't think you'll find anyone to say that AA had a flawless record as a GM for the Jays but he at least had the balls to make big moves and some of them turned out great. Even the ones that didn't pan out exactly perfect were moves that in theory should have worked better than they did and at the time were the right things to do. The only real bad one from the start was Syn for Dickey. Not because of what Syn turned out to be (because no one really knew what he'd be at that time), but because everyone should have known that Dickey wasn't going to be a repeat CY candidate. But yes, obviously Syn turning into a legit ace type pitcher makes it much worse in hindsight.
     
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    Alex Anthopoulos explanation lies in what Toronto Blue Jays president Mark Shapiro didn’t say

    Report: Blue Jays GM Anthopoulos, incoming CEO Shapiro butted heads

    To say Alex Anthopoulos rejected an extension from Blue Jays is ridiculous: Griffin | Toronto Star

    Making sense of Alex Anthopoulos' departure from Blue Jays

     
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    He certainly has his hands tied now with the punishments.
     
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    He knew they were coming, question is, did he know that they'd be this harsh?

    This is quite the task for even the Friedman's and Cashman's of the MLB.
     
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    This won't show the effects for a few years. The Braves have the next few waves of prospects all set. It'll show in about 4-5 years when the current stock of picks and prospects will be ready. Yeah, they lost some 18 and 19 year olds, but luckily, they are stocked for years. Losing Maitan is a kick in the shorts, but he's 17.

    To me, the real penalty is the lack of money to sign any international players for the next 3 years. He'll have to be real creative to keep the pipeline stocked after the 5-year mark.
     

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