Eklund Rumor: Bozak for Carolina D

[Blender]

Yeh but that doesn't fit their narrative so they'll claim it was everyone.

I never said everyone. Plenty of reasonable Leafs fans on the site, plenty of unreasonable ones as well. Goes with having a large fanbase that you will have more than your share of unreasonable or ignorant fans.

 

[Brock Radunske]

I never said everyone. Plenty of reasonable Leafs fans on the site, plenty of unreasonable ones as well. Goes with having a large fanbase that you will have more than your share of unreasonable or ignorant fans.

I can't argue with that.

(I should have said "the narrative" not "their narrative". Apologies)

 

[Lays]

Bozak would be the center piece in going for the higher end in Pesce or Faulk, I was asking what Leafs would have to add to get him. Further, now that I re-read the rumor, who on NYR or CBJ would the Leafs be targeting? I would say Savard for CBJ and Brady Skjei from NYR, though Brady is a LHD.

If Toronto wants those pieces Bozak is not the centerpiece. I'm insulted as a Rangers fan if you think Bozak could touch Skjei.

 

[Batrous]

As for the Leafs trading Bozak. If they believed that they weren't going to resign him in the offseason, they were not going on a deep playoff run and finally believed that other players on the team could play in the top 3 centre type of role then I could see the Leafs trading him for a draft pick (or picks) or prospect to a team looking to add to their centre depth for a deep playoff run.

The thing is that I don't know if there really is much of a trade market for him right now and I think many NHL teams would be reluctant to give up high draft picks in the next 3 drafts.

 

[Batrous]

I also don't see teams wanting to give up any type of decent quality young defenceman in any trade involving Bozak given how difficult it is to find and develop such players.

 

[go4hockey]

Bozak would be the center piece in going for the higher end in Pesce or Faulk, I was asking what Leafs would have to add to get him. Further, now that I re-read the rumor, who on NYR or CBJ would the Leafs be targeting? I would say Savard for CBJ and Brady Skjei from NYR, though Brady is a LHD.

Bozak could not be the main piece for any of the defenseman you named in this post. Your dreaming.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Bozak could not be the main piece for any of the defenseman you named in this post. Your dreaming.

Yeah, I had also thought maybe might work with Cbus to get them some centre help and Foligno back on wing or NYR just needs a centre in general. Now in terms of the type of return you're going to get...that's another conversation entirely.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Bozak + Dermott and a 2018 1st for Faulk is a deal that makes some sense to me.

Have you seen Faulk? He is not an upgrade for us. This considerably weakens the organization, and is a deal for the sake of a deal. Would not be surprised if Dermott is better than Faulk within 3 years, nevermind that first can be a lottery pick with a 5 game losing streak.

 

[Jared Dunn]

There is no deal that starts with Bozak and results in Toronto getting any of the Canes top 4

 

[Starat327]

well I guess it would depend on the +. adding a 1st or highish end prospect would take it way past TVR value.

the + would need to be a bigger piece than Bozak in that case. Canes GM said he wouldnt move Hanifin or Faulkfor Duchene because he only had two years of control left. Bozak will have minimal value to the Canes in a trade for one of their top 4 D.

I also don't think Carolina is interested in future pieces anymore at this point. They're done with the rebuild, and need high-end, impact players, particularly a 1C, at this point.

 

[Walshy7]

the + would need to be a bigger piece than Bozak in that case. Canes GM said he wouldnt move Hanifin or Faulkfor Duchene because he only had two years of control left. Bozak will have minimal value to the Canes in a trade for one of their top 4 D.

I also don't think Carolina is interested in future pieces anymore at this point. They're done with the rebuild, and need high-end, impact players, particularly a 1C, at this point.

oh I agree bozak doesn't have much value on his own. And likely nothing even comes close to happening.

I don't think they get a high end 1C with anything but their best dman either.

 

[Jared Dunn]

oh I agree bozak doesn't have much value on his own. And likely nothing even comes close to happening.

I don't think they get a high end 1C with anything but their best dman either.

I guess it depends what you consider high end. Like a Tyler Seguin or someone would cost Slavin yeah but I'm almost certain they could have had Duchene for Hanifin alone

 

[Walshy7]

I guess it depends what you consider high end. Like a Tyler Seguin or someone would cost Slavin yeah but I'm almost certain they could have had Duchene for Hanifin alone

sure. TBH Duchene isn't really what I would consider a high end 1C anyway IMO.

 

[Jared Dunn]

sure. TBH Duchene isn't really what I would consider a high end 1C anyway IMO.

Me neither, but I also don't think they necessarily need one as their 2-3 spots would be pretty damn solid with Rask and Staal

 

[Walshy7]

Me neither, but I also don't think they necessarily need one as their 2-3 spots would be pretty damn solid with Rask and Staal

yeah absolutely very solid. "I was replying to a poster who said they need high end forwards especially 1C" for that player (if they wanted it) slavin goes out the door

 

[Starat327]

oh I agree bozak doesn't have much value on his own. And likely nothing even comes close to happening.

I don't think they get a high end 1C with anything but their best dman either.

Right, I wasnt implying Hanifin gets you a high end 1C, just stating that that is what Carolina's need is. Trading away their top 4 for anything but a 1C would be counter productive for them, irregardless of value. Ive said it before, i like Bozak and think hes a good player, so this isnt a shot at Bozak. But his contract status makes him an 'add-in' for a top 4D, not the main piece.

 

[Walshy7]

Right, I wasnt implying Hanifin gets you a high end 1C, just stating that that is what Carolina's need is. Trading away their top 4 for anything but a 1C would be counter productive for them, irregardless of value. Ive said it before, i like Bozak and think hes a good player, so this isnt a shot at Bozak. But his contract status makes him an 'add-in' for a top 4D, not the main piece.

agree with your bozak assessment. I don't think we trade him because he isn't very valuable and our c depth isn't deep so we keep Bozak instead of a 2nd if that's his value.

 

[Starat327]

agree with your bozak assessment. I don't think we trade him because he isn't very valuable and our c depth isn't deep so we keep Bozak instead of a 2nd if that's his value.

I dont think a 2nd+3rd or even 2nd, would be unreasonable for Bozak, especially at the deadline if someone really needs help at the C spot. I can think of a few teams where he's a positional fit (MTl, NYR, Ana), but i dont know if those teams are willing to take the risk and sacrifice assets yet. Teams need to figure out where they are and what theyre doing this year first before a trade shakes out, is my guess.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

I like how the color for Eklund tags is the same color as dog poop...

 

[jrgtml67]

Umm ya he could be. Bozak alone is not worth any of them I agree. You start talking about 1st round picks, and say Kapenen, Dermott I think that is close, but again, apparently no leaf is worth jack unless it is Matthews, Nylander or Marner. Good thing is a forum and not real life, look at the Duchene deal. What the heck did Colorado get? A backup goalie 3 picks (so 3 maybes) and 2 decent prospects (2 more maybes) Nashville gets Turris a top 9 center, and Ottawa top 2 center in Duchene. Those picks Colorado got will be low first round (Ottawa and Preds I think make it to round 2 or 3 of playoffs) and the 2 prospects come no where near a Dermott, Rosen, Rosen, Kapenen etc etc. Of course though as I said Leaf players are worth peanuts unless it is one of our big 3 or Rielly, Gardiner, Zaitsev, and that is a huge joke, and no where near the truth.

 

[MagicalRazor]

There is no deal that starts with Bozak and results in Toronto getting any of the Canes top 4

We don't even need a top 4 , your 5-6-7 D would be top 4 for us LOL