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The Kinder, Gentler Version
It seems like alot of credible people prefer one over the other. Which guy would you rather your favorite team draft, and why?
Very, very true.... but if I'm given a choice, I'd love to see Bobby Ryan in orange and black. He's more physical than Pouliot, has a great shot - just an all-round better fit in Philadelphia.Bluenote13 said:I'd be happy with either.
So you'd take Pouliot over Johnson/Brule?Hossa said:Personally, I prefer Pouliot. He just has better all-round potential. He's a much better skater for one thing, and I prefer his all-round skills as well. Ryan's a more mature and developped player, but his upside is not nearly as high as Pouliot's. If Pouliot were even 50% as filled out as Ryan is right now, I don't think it'd be close. Both are really good kids who for their own reasons (and their stories are well known), are well grounded and mature. If I had the third overal pick, I'd probably use it on Pouliot though.
gobert said:So you'd take Pouliot over Johnson/Brule?
gobert said:So you'd take Pouliot over Johnson/Brule?
markov` said:I would take Bobby Ryan in a heartbeat.
I have a bad feeling than Pouliot may be last year Andrew Ladd. He's only had one great season in his career, and I think his offensive skills are a little overated. His puckhandling and goal scoring skills just doesn't match up with Ryan's.
I wouldn't take Pouliot in the top 5, that's for sure.
Hossa said:On the surface the Ladd comparison is similar, but the more you look at them, it's not really. For one thing, Pouliot used to be really, really skinny. Like, we're talking he was about 160 pounds or something just last year. And of course, last year he didn't play in the OHL, but his father was sick and although he was cut from the team, had to be feeling like he'd rather be playing at home than away in Sudbury.
Also, nobody was ever talking about Ladd and his unbelievable upside, they were saying he's a very advanced prospect who just needed a chance in the WHL. Pouliot's not a finished product, but his upside is tremendous.
Hossa said:Personally, I prefer Pouliot. He just has better all-round potential. He's a much better skater for one thing, and I prefer his all-round skills as well. Ryan's a more mature and developped player, but his upside is not nearly as high as Pouliot's. If Pouliot were even 50% as filled out as Ryan is right now, I don't think it'd be close. Both are really good kids who for their own reasons (and their stories are well known), are well grounded and mature. If I had the third overal pick, I'd probably use it on Pouliot though.
Kryoptix said:all I heard about Pouliot reminds me Jeff Carter in his draft year ...
big,lanky center with good speed big upside but that need to bulk up a bit ..
I even think pouliot is a better playmaker than Carter ..
anyway I would pick Pouliot very very high .. 3rd pick and maybe even 2nd pick for me is not a reach !
rt said:When you say his all-round skills, do you mean his offensive skills or that he has more defensive polish than Ryan?
monster_bertuzzi said:I guess Johnson, Brule, and Ryan are all finished products eh Hossa?
misfit said:Carter is a very good comparison IMO, but if you ask me, Pouliot is much better than Carter was in his draft year.
HabLover said:Carter was 17 in his draft year. Pouliot is 18 in his draft year. Not a fair comparison.
Doomsday Device said:Carter was 1 day away from being a 18 year old, and unlike most 18 year olds Pouliot doesn't have an edge in OHL experience.
HabLover said:So, at the start of the 2002/2003 in Sept, Jeff Carter was 1 day away from being 18?....huh, please explain???
And how does Pouliot not have an edge unlike most 18 yr olds when comparing them to a 17 yr old? I would hazard a guess that Pouliot is a year wiser, a bit stronger, somewhat more mature and whichever way you look at it, he has one more year of hockey experience from the age of 16 - 18, whether it's in the OHL or a midget house league! For some players it may not make a difference, but we are comparing two pretty good hockey players here.
Hossa said:The point he was making was had Carter been born 24 hours earlier, he would have been drafted as an 18 year old too. The difference between the two is three months. Also, while Pouliot may be older, Carter went into his draft year with an extra year in the OHL. Neither were strong as they were both big guys with no meat on their bones, so that's a wash. One year OHL experience makes up for that three month difference.
Not that I"m sure why it's become Pouliot vs. Carter anyways, it was a comparison in style and upside, not in who one would take.