Discussion in 'Detroit Red Wings' started by 21 Savage, Apr 10, 2018.
They finished near the bottom of the league the last two seasons. That's not mediocre.
Look at Vegas talk about getting the most out of players 7 players with career years.
Good thing Blash is here to lead the tank then.
Yes, 29 other teams are wondering why their coaching staff isn't doing what Vegas is doing.
Might as well draft the brother Hughes these next two drafts.
As long as Blash now fully understands he’s here to prioritize youth development and not try to win meaningless games, I’m fine with this. We’ll suck next year regardless of who the coach is.
That's not on Blashill though, thats on Holland.
I've said in the past that the direction given to Holland is likely given to him by ownership, and I feel the same thing about Blashill with Holland. The direction the head coach takes, is likely given to him by the GM, or at least it should be.
I would disagree. The GM should not meddle in coaching matters more than absolutely necessary.
When it comes to the small things, agreed. If a coach is say benching a player due to an attitude issue, I am fine with that. When it comes to line combos, GM should have no say.
When it comes to the overall direction of the team, so for example telling the coach "I want you to win" or "I want the kids playing" that I think the GM should be giving direction on.
I'm sure those kind of discussions happen but in the end the coach needs to be given free reign of lineup decisions. The GM can demand kids playing or build the roster in such a way the coach is forced to insert younger player, but the coach can still choose to play them 5 minutes per game if he doesn't think they help the team win. Unless a coach has really good long-term job security he'll want to make the team as competitive as possible, not play some kids because they could be good 2, 3, 4, 5 years later when maybe some other coach has taken over.
And I'd go a step further.
If the GM goes out and signs a known quantity --- say a 2nd line center -- and the coach turns him into a 4th line winger -- I think the GM has right to go ask what the **** is going on, and express his opinion.
And if the coach won't use the assets the way the GM envisions, maybe it's time for a new coach.
The coach gets his job security from the GM.
If the GM has job security and tells you that youth is the priority, then that's your job.
But unless Blash has another job lined up, he's still going to play the lineup in a way that maximizes results in order to look better for his next job. And Holland can't make any guarantees about jobs with other teams, just the Wings.
The most Holland can do is say "I will talk to anyone you interview with and explain that we directed you to play the team that way."
Trash gets schooled every night by the oppositions coach. Blaming others like Torch for a pathetic pp is comical. Just look at the players he tried to win with and it is self explanatory on why the poor "Team Results". PP specialists #71 sucked up pp time like he was #99 of the Oilers only to produce one ph***** goal for the entire year. It really is beyond the scope of ANALYTICs to describe such poor results by a player who had the puck on his stick the majority of pp time. Tatar sucked up big pp minutes as well ....only to find himself now as a healthy scratch by the black nights....yes but kenny has picks for him...really .....with all those picks combined he will not find a PASTRANAK.....just cracked up laughing when I heard that he was still available for the wings to draft when they drafted 71.
It's the exact opposite.
If you don't have job security, why in the hell would you ignore an order from your boss.
It's going to get out in the press why you're playing young kids and that it's a rebuild.
If you disobey your GM, that's going to get around the GM circuit - and impair your ability to land your next job.
Teams aren't run like the circus you guys are describing.
Yup, the problem with this team is Larkin's usage and drafting Larkin.
And by the way, I'm sure you were laughing about not picking a player who's name you can't even spell.
flyers fan coming in peace, i think your goaltending is has been a biggest issue since you guys won the cup, signing howard to that big contact was a mistake, if you had a maf, i think this team would be in the playoffs.
Nice hot take, but couldn’t be more wrong. Sorry none of your goalies are competent but Howard actually is.
You know what else will impair your ability to get a job? NOT WINNING.
Blash has job security in as much as he can help the Red Wings accomplish their goals. And also, you should realize that if Ken Holland or any GM goes to their coach and cuts his balls off by telling him that he's going to set the lineups... you're going to lose a good man for no reason and that man is going to tell the next coach you interview about the messed up tone from the top. You'll get no one but last chance re-treads.
It's not "disobeying orders from above"... it's doing your ****ing job with the resources that you have. If a guy was so overbearing as your imaginary Holland or Lamorello or other GM, no coach worth a **** would sign here to coach.
Don't be salty just because we dealt you a lemon. Our team has been woefully undertalented at forward and especially on D. Jimmy Howard has been plenty good enough to accomplish the team's goals if we had a team with anywhere near the talent it had in 2008.
Goaltending has not been outstanding but it is far from being the issue. It all starts with having a defense made up of maybe two #3 defensemen and the rest being #4 or bottom pairing guys. Improving the defense is a struggle since we are against the cap with money tied up in unmovable contracts on players that are not exactly difference makers.
"Wow look at how smart I am with years of hindsight, we should have drafted player X over player Y!"