Biggest +/- Change From One Season To The Next

Neutrinos

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I just noticed that Brian Leetch was +31 in '97 and then -36 the following season for a difference of 67

So what are the biggest changes from one season to the next, both for the positive and negative?
 

brachyrynchos

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The late Brad McCrimmon, a hard nosed defenseman for Philadelphia was +83 in the 1985-86 season, the following year he was "only" a +45. Fellow defenseman Mark Howe was +85 in '85/86, the next year he was +57. Not major dropoffs, but worth mentioning I think.
 

vadim sharifijanov

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when he left oakland for philly, reggie the rifle went from -61 to +53. that’s got to be it right?

another bad team to good team trade: mario marois, -45 with the lindros tanking nords, +17 with the hull/oates blues. and goulet, -32 with the same nords, +27 with the keenan presidents trophy blackhawks.

and going the other way? goulet’s teammate on that hawks team doug wilson. +25 to -38 on the expansion sharks.

also owen nolan, +21 to -33.
 
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Dissonance Jr

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^ those Leach numbers are incredible.

Biggest drop I could find was Brian Engblom, going from +78 with Montreal to -4 with the Caps. I think that beats everyone mentioned so far.
 
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Big Phil

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And the next year, a putrid +71, the no good bum!
Edit- were any goals scored against when he was on the ice?!! +120!

He had 74 goals scored against him during 1977. Sounds like a lot when you think of it though right, but it isn't when you consider how much time Robinson spent on the ice. He was on the ice for 218 goals for.
 
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Big Phil

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Ovechkin has some more modern jumps. 2007 he was -19 to +28 in 2008. Then that weird year where he still scored 51 goals but had that awful -35 in 2014 to +10 in 2015.

Orr jumped from +54 in 1970 to +124 in 1971.

Mario was +41 in 1989 to a surprising -18 in 1990. Then +55 in 1993 to -2 in 1994 although he played only 22 games in an injury riddled year.
 
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vadim sharifijanov

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Biggest drop I could find (and the biggest mentioned so far) was Brian Engblom, going from +78 with Montreal to -4 with the Caps.

i wonder which guys have the records in each direction while staying on the same team.

the leetch numbers in the OP are quite remarkable. robinson too, and that one very surprising.
 

Dissonance Jr

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i wonder which guys have the records in each direction while staying on the same team.

the leetch numbers in the OP are quite remarkable. robinson too, and that one very surprising.

I think the biggest jump from one season to the next without being traded has to be Dallas Smith, right? +9 in 1969-70, then +94 in 1970-71. Bigger than Orr, even!

Not sure about the other direction.
 
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Hockey Outsider

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Here are the top five increases in one year:

Reggie Leach 1975-6153114
Dallas Smith 197199485**
Jerry Korab 1975-444185
Bobby Orr 19715412470**
Larry Robinson 19775012070**
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And the five biggest decreases:

Brian Engblom 198378-4-82
Simon Nolet 197528-52-80
Rick Smith 197336-43-79
Mikael Renberg 199836-37-73
Ed Westfall 197329-42-71
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Players with two asterisks were on the same team the entirety of both years.

The biggest year-over-year decrease for a player on the same team both years was Brian Leetch in 1998 (went from +31 to -36).
 

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