Best under 25 team

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Ajacied

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Leafaholix said:
Alexei Ponikarvosky.....Alexander Steen.....Nikolai Antropov
Robert Earl.............Matthew Stajan......Roman Kukumberg
Martin Sagat............Kyle Wellwood.......Jeremy Williams
Ben Ondrus..............John Mitchell.......Konstantin Volkov
........................Chris St. Jacques
Brad Leeb...............
Jan Steber..............

Carlo Colaiacovo.....Ian White
Brendan Bell.........John Doherty
Jay Harrison.........Dominic D'Amour
Staffan Kronwall.....
Dimitri Vorobiev.....

Justin Pogge
Jean-Francois Racine

Ouch.. It's not horrid, not at all, but I expected the Leafs to have a better team actually..
 

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Flames defense:

Leopold - regeher
Phaneuf - Ramholt
Ference - Commodore

I think thats right. IMO that is a pretty good defense for being that young.
 

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Chainshot said:
Taking guys who're only 25 into account, not only include Mair but Kotalik, Tallinder, and Campbell.

Honorable mention to Gaustad, Thorburn and Valent as well.
Whoops I forgot Mair was 25.
 

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A. Frolov-M. Cammalleri-K. Pushkaryev
J. Tambellini-L. Tukonen-D. Brown
J. Karlsson-B. Boyle-P. Kanko
R. Flynn-S. Barney/B. Murray-E. Neilson


T. Gleason-D. Grebeshkov
R. Petiot-J. Corvo
T. Zizka-P. Bair


9 of these players were former first round picks (Gleason picked by Ottawa)



Empty in goal...although we've picked up about 15 goalies in the last 3 drafts hoping to hit the jackpot with one of them.
 

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Patrick - Flames Fan said:
Flames defense:

Leopold - regeher
Phaneuf - Ramholt
Ference - Commodore

I think thats right. IMO that is a pretty good defense for being that young.


agreed. i think that nashville, pittsburgh and calgary are in a class by themselves in terms of future defense.
 

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Penguin U25 at the top

Penguin prospects

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You would be hard pressed to match this prospect list for lines!!

KOLTSOV MALKIN ANSHAKOV
MALONE KRAFT SUROVY
EAVES TALBOT FATA
MOULSON BARTSCHI OUELLET

WHITNEY WELCH
ORPIK NEMEC
BISSONNETTE FERNHOLM
SCUDERI (AND DONT FORGET ABOUT TARNSTROM & JACKMAN A LITTLE OLDER )

FLEURY CHIODO CARON

And there are so more that definitly are just as worthy to put in there. How about
Eric Christensen who in 2002-2003 led the WHL in scoring with 54 goals 54 assists
in just 67 games
 

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Gaborik- O'Sullivan- Voloshenko
Dupuis - Bouchard- Foy
Veilleux- Wallin- Wanvig
Sprunger- Koivu- Irmen

EX: Courchaine, Erickson

Thelen- Burns
Misharin- Schultz
Bolduc- Michalek

EX: Stokes, Stoner, Reitz

Harding
Kettles
Kopriva

(God our goaltenders are top heavy)
 
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Jackets

Nash-Svitov-Zherdev
Picard-Fritsche-Mozjakin
Lindstrom-Malhotra-Pineault
Konsorada-Piispanen-Jackman
Ex.: Pohl, Mauldin, Dupuis

Klesla-A.Johnson
Kosmachev-Tollefsen
Plekhanov-Lakos
Ex.: Wharton

Leclair
Lacosta
 

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Actually I don't see Bouchard or O'Sullivan on the fourth, more productive centers than Koivu (more skill and speed)...Wallin has chemistry already with Wanvig and Veilleux, so basically we have a glut of solid centers :lol
 

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Ouch.. It's not horrid, not at all, but I expected the Leafs to have a better team actually..
The team is strong down the middle and on the blue line, but the left and right side are rather poor and goaltending isn't that great, it's not poor... but it's not that great. It's a result of not drafting enough goaltenders.
 

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BlueAndWhite said:
Chicago definitely belongs in that class..


to be honest, outside babchuk and barker, chicago's defense is only slightly above average, IMO. i'm not that impressed with seabrooke or barinka, wisniewski is an underrated prospect, though. i just don't think, on the whole, they've got the high end of the other three teams. they lack a suter, phaneuf or whitney. barker is close, but i think those three are on the next level.
 

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BlueAndWhite said:
Chicago definitely belongs in that class..

The only difference is the Flames defense already has a good chunk of NHL experience. Ference, Regehr have a ton of NHL experience for players their age.
 

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I moved some guys out of position, things are really sketchy in the middle, but we have a ton of potential centers.

I favour the NA too much I think.

Saprykin - Boyd - Kobasew
Trubachev - Taratukhin - Chucko
Nystrom - McConnell - Zainullin
Prust - Seitsonen - Maki

Regehr - Leopold
Phaneuf - Ramholt
Montador - Commodore

Krahn
Medvedev

Decent up front, most of those guys should at least be decent grinders, some have offensive potential, but nothing gauranteed, Saprykin should be solid at least. The D is pretty nice and they have some other wildcards coming up the ranks. The goalies are all just a stab in the dark unless Krahn puts the injuries behind him.

Just missed: Matt Lombardi and Andy Ference (both 25)
 

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nomorekids said:
to be honest, outside babchuk and barker, chicago's defense is only slightly above average, IMO. i'm not that impressed with seabrooke or barinka, wisniewski is an underrated prospect, though. i just don't think, on the whole, they've got the high end of the other three teams. they lack a suter, phaneuf or whitney. barker is close, but i think those three are on the next level.
Well that's your opinion which I personally don't agree with.

I could say "outside of Hamhuis and Suter, Nashville's defense is only above average" but I won't because Hamhuis and Suter are integral parts of Nashville's defence.

We are not debating strictly the depth or quality of depth in a defensive core. We are talking about the defensive core as a whole.

While you are not overtly impressed with Seabrooke or Barinka, the fact remains that they are still very good prospects. In fact, Seabrooke projects to be the best defenseman on either team not named Babchuk, Hamhius, Suter or Barker.

Barker definitely belongs (well as definite as a prospect can be) in the class of a Suter, Phaneuf or Whitney.

I'd rank them as follows;

1.) Suter
2.) Barker
3.) Phaneuf
4.) Whitney

nomorekids said:
same with nashville and to a lesser extent pittsburgh.
Who exactly on Nashville has the amount of experience akin to a Regehr or a Ference? Hamhuis played 80 games, everyone else has little to no NHL experience (Suter, Weber, Klein, Sulzer, etc)
 

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nomorekids said:
agreed. i think that nashville, pittsburgh and calgary are in a class by themselves in terms of future defense.

The Caps probably belong towards the end of that class w/Eminger, Morrisonn, Green, Lepisto, Cutta, Hedman, Shultz and Yonkman.
 

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Washington Capitals
(This team is prospects for now, but the future cast of the NHL Caps)

Alexander Ovechkin - Jakub Klepis - Eric Fehr
Alexander Semin - Jared Aulin - Jonas Johansson
Brooks Laich - Brian Sutherby - Boyd Gordon
Tomas Fleischmann - Mikhail Yunkov - Chris Bourque

Extra: Steve Werner, Peter Guggisberg, Pasi Salonen, Owen Fussey, Andreas Valdix

Shaone Morrisonn - Steve Eminger
Jeff Schultz - Mike Green
Nolan Yonkman - Jakub Cutta

Extra: Josef Boumedienne, Sami Lepisto, Oscar Hedman

Maxime Ouellet
Maxime Daigneault
Rastislav Stana


You win.
 

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Alex Tanguay.............Wojtek Wolski...........Marek Svatos
Denis Parshin.............Brad Richardson.........Linus Videll
Frantisek Skladany......Riku Hahl..................Mikhail Kuleshov
Sergei Klyazmin..... ....Cody McCormick.........Viktor Oreskovich
Ryan Steeves
David Svagrovsky

Ossi Vaananen........J-M Liles
Kurt Sauer..............Johnny Boychuk
Mikko Kalteva.........Tomas Slovak
Mikko Viitanen
Jeff Finger

Phil Sauve
Petr Budaj

Nice first line, nice first defensive pairing, nice goaltending. Beyond that, lots of either limited muckers and grinders and wild cards. Parshin and Richardson are particuarly interesting to me. From what I hear, Parshin has Datsyuk-esque ability at times, but he's definitely not far enough along to warrant a direct comparison. If Richardson can bounce back from his injury and overcome his smaller size, I really feel he has the all-around game and hockey sense to be a factor in the NHL.
 

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Here's my version of the pens !!

Malone - Malkin - Anshakov
Eaves - Kraft - Surovy
Koltsov - Beech - Fata
Murley - Talbot - Armstrong

Whitney - Orpik
Nemec - Welch
Bissonnette - Malenkykh

Fleury
Choido
 

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San Jose Sharks

Milan Michalek '84 - Marcel Goc '83 - Jonathan Cheechoo '80
Shane Joseph '81 - Josh Hennessy '85 - Steve Bernier '85
Ryane Clowe '82 - Grant Stevenson '81 - Miroslave Zalesak '80
Glen Olson '84 - Tom Cavanagh '82 - Lukas Kaspar '85

Rob Davison '80 - Christian Ehrhoff '82
Dan Spang '83 - Matt Carle '84
Josh Gorges '82 - Doug Murray '80

Dimitri Pätzold '83
Patrick Ehelechner '84


I've probably just fully embarrassed my non'under-25'savvy self...I basically based it on this site's rankings - (not necessarily taking into account who shoots right/left) - aaand I cheated by including neo26'rs born in '80....maybe this will compel a more informed sharks fanatic to right my wrongs - ha...at least I tried
 

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Thresher said:
I've probably just fully embarrassed my non'under-25'savvy self...I basically based it on this site's rankings - (not necessarily taking into account who shoots right/left) - aaand I cheated by including neo26'rs born in '80....maybe this will compel a more informed sharks fanatic to right my wrongs - ha...at least I tried

i don't think marleau and stuart have turned 25 yet, but i may be wrong. with them included this is what i would say for the sharks:

michalek-marleau-cheechoo
morris-goc-bernier
joseph-hennessy-kaspar
clowe-stevenson-zalesak

stuart-ehrhoff
davison-carle
gorges-murray

patzold
ehelechner
 

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Forwards

Bell - Ruutu - Calder
Bickell - Arnason - Vorobiev
Radulov - Yakubov - M.kieth
Garlock - Bolland - Berti
Ellison - Sindel -

Defensemen

Barker - Babchuk
Barinka - Seabrooke
Vandermeer - Wisniewski
Mccarthy - D.kieth
Kuiper - Kukkonen

Goalies

Leighton
Anderson
Crawford
Munro
Brodeur
 
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