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Haley now; Stock, Tootoo, and Kelly Chase (guys who will all go toe to toe with guys their size and take on big guys on occasion - some of them more than others).
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I couldn't remember Simmonds ever fighting Prust so I looked it up and it was in 2011?
Seriously?
The fact that you had to go back 7 years to make a point is sad.
Everyone loses fights, even heavyweights.
This thread is about the best pound for pound fighter and Simmonds at 180 pounds is tough as nails.
Does he win every fight?
No but if he was 40 pounds heavier he would be serving up even ore beatings.
Lucic at 240 pounds should be beating people up, that's not impressive.
But yet, you seem to think he's the toughest guy in the league, and yet are completely unaware of his fights.
Indeed.
The fact you called Simmonds the toughest guy in the league is sad. The fact that you didn't know about the beating he took from a guy who never beat anyone is sad.
But the truly sad thing is that you completely missed the point. Brandon Prust wasn't tough. A tie was a win for him. And yet he easily smashed Simmonds. If you are going to call a guy the toughest or best pound for pound fighter in the league, it should be a guy who can actually win a fight. Would it be better if I mentioned the loss he took from Kevin Bieska? What about from Dalton Prout? Tom Wilson? Dylan McGrath? Matt Martin? Oh but wait, he did well against noted pugilist Jonathan Ericsson. Such a brawler.
But they don't lose as many as Simmonds does, which is the fact you are ignoring
Doesn't seem that way with how many fights he has lost.
As we've seen, absolutely not. He loses more than he wins, yet you put him at the top of the list.
Against whom? The same guys he's losing fights to now? Or guys who are also 40lbs heavier. A pissed off Milan Lucic nearly dicapitaced Prust in a fight in NY. Lucic easily beats Prust, Prust easily beats Smmonds, but Simmonds is "tough as nails". I
Why should he? Dustin Penner, Hal Gil, Brian Boyle, Jagr, Nik Antropov all weighed at least that. Where they the toughest guys in the league? On their own team? On their own line?
The fact that you think size / weight means toughness explains how little you know about fighting. But really, you picking Simmonds as the toughest guy already showed that.
Beat it kid.
He was god awful. Absolute trash.Sleeper for pound for pound fighter is Mike Brown.
He was god awful. Absolute trash.
He would also throw two quick right hands and fall down 2 seconds into them. He’s not even in the top 100.Considering he was no taller than 6 feet, he was pretty good.
One year he had 19 fights and lost only 3.
But yet, you seem to think he's the toughest guy in the league, and yet are completely unaware of his fights.
Indeed.
The fact you called Simmonds the toughest guy in the league is sad. The fact that you didn't know about the beating he took from a guy who never beat anyone is sad.
But the truly sad thing is that you completely missed the point. Brandon Prust wasn't tough. A tie was a win for him. And yet he easily smashed Simmonds. If you are going to call a guy the toughest or best pound for pound fighter in the league, it should be a guy who can actually win a fight. Would it be better if I mentioned the loss he took from Kevin Bieska? What about from Dalton Prout? Tom Wilson? Dylan McGrath? Matt Martin? Oh but wait, he did well against noted pugilist Jonathan Ericsson. Such a brawler.
But they don't lose as many as Simmonds does, which is the fact you are ignoring
Doesn't seem that way with how many fights he has lost.
As we've seen, absolutely not. He loses more than he wins, yet you put him at the top of the list.
Against whom? The same guys he's losing fights to now? Or guys who are also 40lbs heavier. A pissed off Milan Lucic nearly dicapitaced Prust in a fight in NY. Lucic easily beats Prust, Prust easily beats Smmonds, but Simmonds is "tough as nails". I
Why should he? Dustin Penner, Hal Gil, Brian Boyle, Jagr, Nik Antropov all weighed at least that. Where they the toughest guys in the league? On their own team? On their own line?
The fact that you think size / weight means toughness explains how little you know about fighting. But really, you picking Simmonds as the toughest guy already showed that.
Beat it kid.
9 career fights.Not really, it's not. He's had 9 career fights, and has won 3 of them, all against non fighters - Johansen, Trouba & De Sousa a while back who's actually smaller than he is, and a non fighter. Definitely not remotely close to being in the discussion.
4. Mike KeaneNo one fights anymore but all time. Using weight(lb per lb) not height. Since this is the true measure of smaller.
1. George Mcphee
2. Stan Jonathan
3. Wendel Clark
4. Mike Keane
Haley now; Stock, Tootoo, and Kelly Chase (guys who will all go toe to toe with guys their size and take on big guys on occasion - some of them more than others).
Did Simmonds bang your sister or something? I would have said wife but let's be honest...
I still think it's pretty funny you went back 7 years to find a fight Simmonds lost to make your point but hey man, do your thing.
I'm also starting to think you might not understand the concept of the term pound for pound but I also don't feel like debating with some neanderthal about this silly topic anymore so I'll leave it be.
On a side note, you seem pretty upset about a hypothetical, highly subjective thread. Maybe you should look into martial arts as a way to relieve some of that anger but I'll just go ahead and assume you're foaming at the mouth to tell someone about your glory days in the gym.
All the best, wise old man.
I would be remised if I didn't include 5'9 175 lbs Danny Gare here.
Here are 2 fights he had with Clark Gillies and Mel Bridgeman. He did unbelievable well.
I find it funny that you think I'm 16 years old while you can't control your anger on the internet. You also have incredibly poor grammar so I'll just go ahead and assume you're not 16 but you're an uneducated middle aged man responding to posts from a public library because you can't afford the internet for yourself. But seriously, you really do seem incredibly mad about a meaningless thread about hockey fights on the internet. Is everything ok back at your trailer? Do you need help with repairs?So we've discovered you are all of 16 years old. Great. No wonder you keep saying idiotic things.
I also went back last year to when he lost to Bieska. But sure, ignore that. And all the other guys he's lost too as well.
You have named someone who constantly loses fights as the best pound of pound fighter in the league. It's clear you don't know what it means. But sure, since his fight card has been listed, and you can'f defend the overwhelming high amount of loses, just run away.
I will give Simmonds credit, he is far braver that you are. While he loses most of his fights, he at least fought again. You don't even have that courage as you are running away like a coward after getting beat. This is why your opinion doesn't matter.
BTW, did you see McQuaid pummel Michael Haley last night? Or Lucic unloading on Tanner Glass? Yep, those are actual tough guys. Not someone who loses to Kevin Bieska
He rarely ever fought the true HW's. Stock, Jonathan, Domi, etc did that all the time.PFP has to begin with Rick Rypien. Small guy that fought giants and mostly won.
Reaves vs Simmonds vs McQuaid would be a rumble for the ages