Best line in the league? Kucherov-Stamkos-Namestnikov?

[TheBeastCoast]

I didn't need to do anything, you did contradict yourself, Leafs line isn't better at scoring.

....You specifically cut his post down to try and fit what you wanted it to say lol He very clearly was talking about at both ends of the ice I mean come on.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Kuch is on fire. He's been in Tampa since June working on his game and it's paying off now. Stamkos has worked really well with him and he's not even at his best game yet. When Stamkos and Kuch are at the top of their game, Namestnikov doesn't have to do much other than not suck. He has been good complimentary player for them though. I'll take them just as much as any other top duo in the league.

 

[Volodya Krutov]

Kuch is on fire. He's been in Tampa since June working on his game and it's paying off now. Stamkos has worked really well with him and he's not even at his best game yet. When Stamkos and Kuch are at the top of their game, Namestnikov doesn't have to do much other than not suck. He has been good complimentary player for them though. I'll take them just as much as any other top duo in the league.

Namestnikov is not on par with them talent-wise, but he's becoming an effective complementary player, better than last year, especially with his work along the boards. Also, his front net presence, his knack for disrupting the opposition's breakout and possession game feeds his linemates with more offensive zone time. In short, they have a nice chemistry going on.

 

[ImpartialNHLfan]

huh?

Tampa line: 6GP: 10G-15A-25P: 1.67GPG, 4.17PPG

Toronto Line: 5GP: 8G-7A-15P: 1.6GPG, 3PPG

How is that even close? The Tampa line has 10 more points in 1 more game, do you need help explaining what "only goals count" means? The Tampa lines possession numbers are ridiculous right now along with their production.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Matthews line scores 10P next game.

 

[Adtar02]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Matthews line scores 10P next game.

you mean tonight against washington. this will be nice to see how that great line does against one the best out there

 

[Sky04]

3 more points for the TB line, tons of chances apparently for the leafs line, trend continues

 

[Frosty415]

Kuch adds another one

Crazy start for TB

 

[VoluntaryDom]

kuch has 2 points I think, stammer has 3, names 1 or 2 I believe so far through 2 in NJD game

 

[thegongshow]

Yes, sick, sick line. Top #1 lines:

1.) TB
2.) DAL
3.) CHI/TOR
4.) PIT/WAS
5.) PHI/WIN

 

[DownIsTheNewUp]

 

[authentic]

Nylander/Matthews/Hyman has had over 10 really good scoring chances tonight and not scored a goal, unreal.

 

[Yasuo]

Stamkos/Kucherov is the best duo in the league right now.

 

[Frosty415]

Stamkos/Kucherov is the best duo in the league right now.

Agreed, hope they both have a crazy year, would be cool to see em go head to head for the art ross

Kuch was a beast last year

 

[1967th Heaven]

Irrefutable at this point, my goodness.

And the fact that Stamkos' stat line is 2G 10A, just imagine when he starts scoring again....

 

[The Kessel Run]

Stamkos/Kucherov is the best duo in the league right now.

It's great to see. I love Kucherov's game and am really happy to see Stammer coming back strong. What an exciting line to watch right now.

 

[Adtar02]

5 more for philly tonight. That's 27 through 6 games. Just one ahead of Tampa.

 

[The Macho King]

5 more for philly tonight. That's 27 through 6 games. Just one ahead of Tampa.

Tampa got 6 tonight... 1g 2a for Stamkos, 1g 1a for Kucherov, 1g for Namestnikov.

 

[Adtar02]

Tampa got 6 tonight... 1g 2a for Stamkos, 1g 1a for Kucherov, 1g for Namestnikov.

So 32 through 7 games.

 

[CBJx614]

Panarin-Wennberg-Atkinson have 17 pts through the first 6 games. Nothing crazy, but just wait until panarin starts really letting them fly. 7/8 points so far are assists.

No Werenski on the other hand... He's on Pace for 40+ goals.

Jackets don't have one dominant line, the skill really is divided up extremely well on both the offense and defense.

 

[TheBigThree]

kuch line is the best and after last night matthews line dropped second

 

[zeke]

Some crazy performances so far.

I like looking at expected goals for percentage, myself. Adjusted for score and zone deployment.

Here are the best lines so far at even strength by those measures (min 50min):

1.Matthews/Nylander/Hyman: 71.0xgf%
2.Zibanejad/Kreider/Buchnevich: 63.8xgf%
3.Johanssen/Forsberg/Arvidsson: 63.2xgf%
4.Thornton/Pavelski/Labanc: 63.1xgf%
5.Toews/Saad/Panik: 62.1xgf%
6.Tavares/Eberle/Lee: 61.3xgf%
7.Stepan/Domi/Keller: 59.3xgf%
8.Wennberg/Atkinson/Panarin: 57.5xgf%
9.Kopitar/Brown/Iafallo: 56.2xgf%
10.Benn/Seguin/Radulov: 55.6xgf%

 

[Werewolf]

Some crazy performances so far.

I like looking at expected goals for percentage, myself. Adjusted for score and zone deployment.

Here are the best lines so far at even strength by those measures (min 50min):

1.Matthews/Nylander/Hyman: 71.0xgf%
2.Zibanejad/Kreider/Buchnevich: 63.8xgf%
3.Johanssen/Forsberg/Arvidsson: 63.2xgf%
4.Thornton/Pavelski/Labanc: 63.1xgf%
5.Toews/Saad/Panik: 62.1xgf%
6.Tavares/Eberle/Lee: 61.3xgf%
7.Stepan/Domi/Keller: 59.3xgf%
8.Wennberg/Atkinson/Panarin: 57.5xgf%
9.Kopitar/Brown/Iafallo: 56.2xgf%
10.Benn/Seguin/Radulov: 55.6xgf%

I like how you adjust for score and zone deployment. You should go a step further and adjust for "Actual Scoring" in order to determine the current best line.

 

[TheDoldrums]

I like how you adjust for score and zone deployment. You should go a step further and adjust for "Actual Scoring" in order to determine the current best line.

Okay. 5v5 Matthews has been on the ice for 7 goals for, 1 against.

5v5 Stamkos has been on the ice for 7 goals, 5 against.

Which one of those seems better? Why do you guys think adding total points is the best way to determine the most effective line?

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Okay. 5v5 Matthews has been on the ice for 7 goals for, 1 against.

5v5 Stamkos has been on the ice for 7 goals, 5 against.

Which one of those seems better? Why do you guys think adding total points is the best way to determine the most effective line?

Funny how people who say "only actual goals matter" forget that there are two nets

 

[Sky04]

When you have twice the offensive production it doesn't matter, especially considering the Tampa line are all plus players with ridiculous possession numbers. I mean Stamkos and Namestnikov alone have more points than the leafs line, nevermind Kucherov.

But hey I also remember people trying to argue Toews was better than Malkin in 2012.