Bears and NFL Talk Thread LIII: Countdown to the Preseason

[TLEH]

Depth guy. He was not good in Denver last year but nobody was.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Marshall was invisible last year when healthy and has been on decline

 

[HawksBeerFan]

Pretty hilarious since yesterday he Tweeted to Dez something along the lines of "sorry baby bro no room here" when Dez was talking about joining the Giants.

 

[TorMenT]

Can you imagine a WR corp of OBJ/Dez/Marshall/Randle if they were all in their primes?

 

[ChiHawks10]

Can you imagine a WR corp of OBJ/Dez/Marshall/Randle if they were all in their primes?

Can you imagine the chaos of all those egos in one room, one one team?!?

Having all of those guys in one room is a guarantee for your team to implode before a game is ever even played.

 

[piteus]

Can you imagine the chaos of all those egos in one room, one one team?!?

Having all of those guys in one room is a guarantee for your team to implode before a game is ever even played.

Can you imagine having all the egos of Marshall, Bennett, Cutler, and Jeffery in one offensive huddle?

 

[ChiHawks10]

Can you imagine having all the egos of Marshall, Bennett, Cutler, and Jeffery in one offensive huddle?

Meh. Cutler and Jeffrey not really. Nowhere near all those others combined.

 

[piteus]

Meh. Cutler and Jeffrey not really. Nowhere near all those others combined.

Cutler has a HUGE ego. That was his issue. He thought his arm was strong enough to mask this deficiencies. He continually called out his receivers and linemen for apparent mistakes until it was too late. Even at the end of his career, he thought he should only start.

On the surface, Jeffery was quiet. However, he still demanded top 5 receiver pay after missing numerous games due to injury and PEDs. When he got to free agency, he had to take a massive pay cut. That said, Jeffery ultimately got the contract he wanted ... but now he's injured again. It's not like Jeffery can't be a headache.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Cutler has a HUGE ego. That was his issue. He thought his arm was strong enough to mask this deficiencies. He continually called out his receivers and linemen for apparent mistakes until it was too late. Even at the end of his career, he thought he should only start.

On the surface, Jeffery was quiet. However, he still demanded top 5 receiver pay after missing numerous games due to injury and PEDs. When he got to free agency, he had to take a massive pay cut. That said, Jeffery ultimately got the contract he wanted ... but now he's injured again. It's not like Jeffery can't be a headache.

As far as I know, neither of those guys has/had the reputation that Marshall, Bennett, OBJ, and Dez have.

 

[piteus]

As far as I know, neither of those guys has/had the reputation that Marshall, Bennett, OBJ, and Dez have.

Cutler had his issues earlier in his career. It's not an accident that Urlacher called him a bleep when the Bears first traded for him. He got a lot better later. People who questioned Cutler were full of BS though. Cutler's been tough since getting his head beat in at Vandy.

However, you are right ... he's nothing like Dez or Marshall. OBJ has always been liked by his teammates.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

On the talk of cross-draft QB comparisons...

1. Listening to 670 this morning, Greg Gabriel was on and said he'd take all of Trubisky, Waston and Mahomes over and QB in the upcoming draft.

2. Matt Miller has them as...

1. Goff
2. Wentz
3. Darnold
4. Trubisky
5. Allen
6. Rosen
7. Mayfield
8. Watson
9. Mahomes

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

This will probably be wrong, but I don't like Mayfield at the next level.

 

[piteus]

This will probably be wrong, but I don't like Mayfield at the next level.

Picking a QB is like playing the lottery. The higher the pick, the more lottery tickets you get.

There's a minimum requirement for arm strength, size, mobility, and intelligence ... and then roll the dice.

 

[RayP]

Someone is going to pay through the nose to jump up to get a QB, but I don’t think we draft early enough to take advantage.

 

[Illinihockey]

This years draft is crazy. The Bears could pick one of about 6 players, they could also move down. Can't remember a draft like this

 

[HawksBeerFan]

This years draft is crazy. The Bears could pick one of about 6 players, they could also move down. Can't remember a draft like this

It really is.

I think the ideal scenario for the Bears is 3 QBs taken ahead of them and then they trade down a little bit.

If they stay at #8 I'm really starting to think they get a pass rusher, either Landry or Davenport. I also think Smith makes more and more sense.

 

[Illinihockey]

Landry is my dark horse of who will be picked way higher than he's currently being mocked. Could definitely see the Bears getting him.

 

[Illinihockey]

In Matt Millers final mock draft he had the Bears taking Derwin James

 

[Blue Liner]

Are mock drafts ever even remotely accurate? Honest question.

 

[Illinihockey]

Are mock drafts ever even remotely accurate? Honest question.

They get better usually the week before the draft. The problem is, one or two trades at the top and everything falls apart.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

In Matt Millers final mock draft he had the Bears taking Derwin James

I'm not sure how I'd feel about this. He obviously seems like a great player but that's a real luxury pick for a team with as many holes as the Bears.

 

[Illinihockey]

I'm not sure how I'd feel about this. He obviously seems like a great player but that's a real luxury pick for a team with as many holes as the Bears.

Agreed, I'd rather stay away from secondary players (Ward, Jackson, James, Fitzpatrick)

 

[Illinihockey]

Mayock put out his final top 100

Mike Mayock's 2018 NFL Draft top 100 prospect rankings

 

[BK]

Ryan Pace was asked about Cameron Meredith today and said that they lean on their staff and docs. Interesting.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

So BWC, just so the record is clear. Who do you want at #8?