Battle of the not-quite-dynasties

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  1. arrbez

    arrbez bad chi

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    Which back to back champ was the best?


    Pittsburgh Penguins circa 1990-1992

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    Detroit Red Wings circa 1996-1998

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    Philadelphia Flyers circe 1973-1975
     
  2. sparr0w

    sparr0w Registered User

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    Solely those two seasons, I'd lean towards the Pens, but the Wings added to their's again in '02 with a hefty chunk of the core still intact, most notably their top 4 players that year with Lidstrom, Yzerman, Fedorov, and Shanahan. So I used that, and a touch of homerism, to vote for the Detroit.
     
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    Sens Rule Registered User

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    The Flyers.
     
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    jiggs 10 Registered User

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    The Wings.
     
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    The Wings solely because of the season before their 97 Cup win, they set an NHL record with 62 regular season wins
     
  6. Big Phil

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    The Red Wings shouldnt be anyone's choice. First off the Flyers were better. Clarke was better than Yzerman, Barber was at least as good as Fedorov at the time, and Leach was playing near to that of Shanahan. Also Parent trumps over Vernon.

    But on the flip side the Pens were still better IMO. Mario was better than anyone there. Throw in Francis, Jagr, Mullen, Tocchet (for one year), Recchi (for one year), Coffey (for one year), Stevens, Barrasso, Murphy, and the Samuelssons. That team has more depth than anyone of the others.
     
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    JonathanK McOptimistic

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    Wings. But I am a little biased since I was born around the time the Pens won a Stanley Cup and the Flyers were wayyyyyyyy before my time.
     
  8. John Flyers Fan

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    Flyers went to 3 Cup Finals in a row, something the other two can't claim.
     
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    3 in 4 isn't bad, with that 4th year being a WCF trip after setting an NHL record in wins. Then of course they topped it off with another cup in '02 with the same core.
     
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    True, but the Pens went on to win the presidents trophy in 92-93. The playoff run was a disgrace.
     
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    I lean towards the Flyers because I think they had the better goaltender of the three teams.

    The Penguins had the better forwards, and the Red Wings had the had the better defensemen.

    However, I will take the Flyers with Bernie Parent. He was the best goaltender in the NHL during the 1973-74 and 1974-75 seasons, both the regular season and the playoffs.
     
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    John Flyers Fan Registered User

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    The Flyers dismantling of the Soviets in 76 trumps the Presidents Cup.

    The Flyers were also without Parent (two time defending Conn Smythe winner) and MacLeish (led the Flyers in post-season scoring both Cup years).

    The Flyers win over the Orr-Espo Bruins, was also the most impressive series win of any of the three teams.
     
  13. Stephen

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    They actually set that record the year before in 96 when they lost to Colorado...
     
  14. Luigi Lemieux

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    i'm pretty damn biased, but i think that era of pens teams were unstoppable once they got rolling. '92 team owns the record for consecutive playoff wins(11), and the '93 team owns the record for consecutive regular season wins(17). they might not have been as well rounded as the wings or flyers, but i think they could have beaten either.
     
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    I'm going with Detroit, only because the two championships were a by-product of their overall success, which was much more impressive than either Pennsylvania teams.

    In fact, what Detroit has accomplished over the last decade-plus is as impressive as any team (aside from Montreal's glory days) in history.
     
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    Pens didn't crack 90 points in either Cup winning year.

    Flyers went
    78 games -112 (2nd)
    80 games -113 (T-1)

    80 games -118 (2nd)

    Pens went
    80 games -88 (7th)
    80 games -87 (T-6)

    84 games -119 (1st)

    Wings went
    82 games -131 (1st)
    82 games -94 (5th)
    82 games -103 (3rd)
     
  17. VanIslander

    VanIslander Don't waste my time

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    You young guys really don't know what you've missed

    The Flyers were so dominant in that two year stretch with the most phenomenal back-to-back seasons of goaltending in hockey history (only later rivaled by Hasek).

    And I hate the Flyers with a passion. George Lucas styled Darth Vader on Bobby Clarke.
     
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    Ummm, yeah. I know. Thats why I said BEFORE they won the Cup in 97, they won 62 regular season games
     
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    Nalyd Psycho Registered User

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    The Pens runs were what got me watching hockey, so I'm biassed.
     

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