Barkov vs Rantanen vs Laine

[Rygu]

If we were in the 80's then Laine easily, but today it's Barkov for me.

 

[steierwrass]

Heiskanen has to show it in the NHL before you can really make a case for him to have a higher ceiling than Mikko or Aho. Both are well on their way to being stars in the NHL, Rantanen got back into the top 15 for leaguewide scoring last night, whereas Heiskanen needs to still show that he can play his game in the NHL, and his game results in more than a reliable 2/3.

That you or someone else can value it only after NHL games doesn't change the ceiling he has now. It's same, what I said. Rantanen and Aho have proved more now and then it's easy to say, that their floors are better than Heiskanen's floor, but I'm pretty sure, I'm not the only one, who would put their money on Heiskanen, if you have choose from those three, who has best odds to be better than Barkov and Laine.

 

[cgf]

That you or someone else can value it only after NHL games doesn't change the ceiling he has now. It's same, what I said. Rantanen and Aho have proved more now and then it's easy to say, that their floors are better than Heiskanen's floor, but I'm pretty sure, I'm not the only one, who would put their money on Heiskanen, if you have choose from those three, who has best odds to be better than Barkov and Laine.

That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that the transition to the NHL is one that you can’t always predict. I still wish my Avs had gotten the third pick to take Miro, even though Makar has been exceptional, but you never really know until you see kids make that NHL transition.

 

[Hagged]

That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that the transition to the NHL is one that you can’t always predict. I still wish my Avs had gotten the third pick to take Miro, even though Makar has been exceptional, but you never really know until you see kids make that NHL transition.

I'd say in Heiskanen's case there are zero question marks on him becoming NHL 1st pairing defenseman. That may not make him instantly more valuable than Barkov. But when you factor in the high possibility of Heiskanen becoming more valuable than either Barkov or Laine, you can't but take him as the third pick over other finns like Rantanen/Aho.

Finnish hockey has never produced such a D-man. And most likely never will again, at least in my lifetime.

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

If I’m building a team, I’ll take Datsyuk over OV.

If I want a legend, I’ll take OV.

As another poster mentioned, Barkov is more likely to be better than Datsyuk then Laine is to reach OV.

This isn’t about building a team it’s about who will be the best player over the next 10 seasons, Laine hasnt hit 20 years of age yet and in both of his first 2 seasons he has blown any of Barkovs first 4 seasons out of the water. If Laine is a 19 year old kid with 41 Goals in and 66pts in 71 Games played(this season) and only 16.43 minutes per game what will he look like when he is Barkovs age with 20 minutes per game? I think Laine is a more risky option but he does have a much much higher potential, let’s not act as if Barkov has been playing like he has this season his whole career either.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Barkov
Laine
Rantanen

 

[cgf]

I'd say in Heiskanen's case there are zero question marks on him becoming NHL 1st pairing defenseman. That may not make him instantly more valuable than Barkov. But when you factor in the high possibility of Heiskanen becoming more valuable than either Barkov or Laine, you can't but take him as the third pick over other finns like Rantanen/Aho.

Finnish hockey has never produced such a D-man. And most likely never will again, at least in my lifetime.

I don’t think that’s been true of any prospect other than Dahlin in well over a decade. Even with great prospects like Jones, Hedman, Ekblad & Larsson there was no guarantee that they wouldn’t top out as good top 4 guys that never quite put it together enough to be true top pairing guys.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Boy oh boy is Rantanen being overrated lately

lol he has a whopping 4% of the vote

 

[7even]

Love me some Barkov but it's hard to vote against a guy who will threaten 50g yearly.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Can't decide between Laine and Barkov.

 

[Puck Dogg]

This is bit like comparing oranges and apples, they got different qualities.

I like Laine's goal ratio (.53 per game as of now) so I say him.

 

[pb1300]

This isn’t about building a team it’s about who will be the best player over the next 10 seasons, Laine hasnt hit 20 years of age yet and in both of his first 2 seasons he has blown any of Barkovs first 4 seasons out of the water. If Laine is a 19 year old kid with 41 Goals in and 66pts in 71 Games played(this season) and only 16.43 minutes per game what will he look like when he is Barkovs age with 20 minutes per game? I think Laine is a more risky option but he does have a much much higher potential, let’s not act as if Barkov has been playing like he has this season his whole career either.

OK...we get it, you are a Winnipeg fan lmao.

 

[22FUTON9]

Maybe Im just overrating Barkov or underrating Laine but I'm really surprised that the results are this close

 

[Lovsan]

they all will only become better but i think Barkov takes the cake afterall. hes overall play is simply so amazing.

 

[Voight]

Finlands top line at Beijing 2022

 

[antiqueslivers]

barkov is probably the right answer but my homeritis kicked in and I may clicked laine. I can live with this.

 

[Hagged]

Everybody else are complete jokes compared to Barkov. I could understand this being close if Barkov only had the 30 points he started his career with as everybody cannot be watching the Panthers. But going close to PPG pace there's just no way there are other finns even in the same tier. Even the 65goal Laine some modern day Nostradamuses have foreseen just wouldn't make it to the Barkov tier.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

OK...we get it, you are a Winnipeg fan lmao.

Leaf fans know if Laine is better than Barkov he's better than Matthews also.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

If I were making the team Barkov is easily my 1st call.

 

[Narow]

I'd say in Heiskanen's case there are zero question marks on him becoming NHL 1st pairing defenseman. That may not make him instantly more valuable than Barkov. But when you factor in the high possibility of Heiskanen becoming more valuable than either Barkov or Laine, you can't but take him as the third pick over other finns like Rantanen/Aho.

Finnish hockey has never produced such a D-man. And most likely never will again, at least in my lifetime.

Oh my the positivity way to go hagged im surprised you are so positive about a player i see as much less of a sure thing than laine (im way to ignorant on heiskanen sadly) but nontheless i like the optimism.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

lol he has a whopping 4% of the vote

He shouldnt even be in the poll

 

[a mangy Meowth]

He shouldnt even be in the poll

It's pretty obvious that he's there in name only, but it's not my poll. And who the fk cares. Rantanen has 75 points and is a bonafide top 10 RW. That's all that matters.

 

[PensandCaps]

Laine.

Big Barkov Fan.(He's the better player NOW) But Laine is doing things Barkov wasn't at his age. Imagine what Laine will be doing when he grows into his frame and hits his prime.

 

[Peggy]

laine has 41 goals and is 19

last year he was 18 and had 36 goals in 73 games

some how everyone think barkov is gonna end up the better player even though scoring goals is the hardest thing to do in the Nhl

 

[Peggy]

Center.

no. how it works

when your team so down a goal or 2
you want a player like laine

as a jets fan it's really important that we got a player like laine that can be a threat from anywhere on the ice

2 way player who can be responsible in there own is nice, but being able to actually goals is nicer