Avg. Salary around 1.8Million...NHL wants Avg.Salary around 1.3Million

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  1. BLONG7

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    OK, I realize it's not this simple, but just because the NHL wants it down 500K doesn't mean that the star players aren't going to be offered 4-6 Million $$$ deals, it just means the ******ed contracts of Jagr,Leclair,Modanno,Guerin,Holik,Yashin etc are the ones to go by the wayside, and rightfully so... Maybe the union should go to the kids up and coming in Jr. and in the AHL and ask those guys if the avg at 1.3 is enough for them to live with...and these guys will tell you that if they get paid for playing the game they love, then sure that's enough, as I said there will still be guys making 4-6 M on every team! Under Knob Goodenow the players have been brainwashed, and instead of being happy to play and be paid excellent money, they are being told there is and can always be MORE.... What happened to the love of the GAME???? :banghead: :mad:
     
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    Where did you read this?


    People say "Oh, 5% rollback, so Jaromir Jagr makes $9.5M instead of $10M" Sure. Add that up amongst 30 NHL teams and that's a lot of money they save.


    And maybe it's not Bob Goodenow doing the brainwashing? Maybes its Gary Bettman to his fans. I don't beleive Gary Bettman. He's brainwashed and insulted the intelligence of many fans running around and screaming about the players and not about his idiot owners, some of which don't know what the hell they are doing and thus bring down the whole game.
     
  3. degroat*

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    Daly has mentioned the $1.3M average salary that the owners desire many times in interviews.
     
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    Oh well I missed that.


    For all those counting 7.22% of $1.8M = $1.3M.


    Not a huge concession for the players to make, in my opinion to take a 7.22% rollback in salaries, the least the NHL could do is raise their salary cap number.
     
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    Bettman will make 3 milllion sitting on his ass this "season".
     
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    Bettman will sweat for his money more than he ever has. It's specifically at times like this that he is the most needed. A CBA contract crisis is crunch time for him like the playoffs is crunch time for players.
     
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    We both did our math wrong. You don't do 1.8/1.3, you do 1.3/1.8

    I'm not good with the math, and I'm usually wrong

    When you figure out a %, you can't have the whole number 1 in front of the decimal, or else the % would be over 100%. (You did 1.3x=1.8)


    Ask yourself: What % of 1.8M is 1.3M?

    1.8MX=1.3M <---divide both sides by 1.8M

    1.3M/1.8M = .72222222222 and adjust the decimal point.


    because 50% of 1.8 is .9, so 38% of 1.8 can't be 1.3

    Then 100-72.2=28.8


    So really it's a 28.8% rollback, which is much much more more.


    So Bill Daly wants a 28.8% roll back essentially.

    Now that we got that straighened out :D


    Which could have easily been fixed in the last 10 years by limiting overspending on guys like Alexei Yashin.
     
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  9. degroat*

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    Bill Daly doesn't want a rollback at all. He wants a system that results in an average salary of 1.3M.
     
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    I said essentialy. I didn't put a time frame on it.
     
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    Math deleted...

    My calculation shows that the current salary is 38.5% above the one the NHL claims they want.

    Your calculation says that it would take a 28.8% reduction in salaries from the current level to get to that.

    Those are both correct statements.

    Edited because sorry I had it backwards
     
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    Your calculating it based on the 1.8m not the 1.3m so it is a 28.8% rollback.
     
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    It's 28.8% less is it not? The number is 1.3 that they want and 28.8% is the number they need to use. They want to cut out thay 28.8% buy taking off...28.8% not 38.5%.
     
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    Sorry to step-in on our mathematicians here but...

    Bettman want to reduce the salary from 1.8M$ to an average of 1.3M$ with a new system. Not just a roll-back with an identical CBA, a new system.

    Note: That means reducing 500 000$ from the 1 800 000$ salaries. 500 000 devided by 1 800 000 is 27.7%.

    27.7% of 1.8M$ is 500 000$ therefore reducing to 1.3M$. The number is 27.7%

    But the key is not a rollback...that fixes nothing.
     
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    does anyone have a link to what the salaries of each team are right now and from the end of this past season.
     
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    I think the League would take an average salary of say 1.5 Mil, even 1.6 Mil, phased in over a couple years (say 1.8 first year, 1.7 next. 1.6, after that, etc.), for the "cap". And heck, you don't even necessarily NEED a cap.

    For example, you could tweek the current system, set up a range of DHR that is acceptable (say 55% to 60%), and if the players are getting more or less than that, renormalize all contracts to fit inside the band, and keep going. Some penalties would have to be discussed to penalize teams from stupidly handing out big deals, just to have them normalized down.
     
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    That's the problem though. The owners and players actually agree that salaries will go down, they're fighting over the mechanism that will achieve that.
     
  18. There not just gonna rollback all the player salaries, its gonna be phased in over a 2-3 year period when a set date is made for teams to be at a certian amount. It would be insane to say hey take 27% pay cut right now its gonna be impossible to all teams to get to a specific number that quickly. There goal is under the new system which would be phased in is that the salaries would be 1.3 million on a average, and the better players are gonna make there 6-7 million dollars, so I don't think anyone is gonna starve considering that all there flights, cars, hotels are paid for.
     
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