Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by HailMcJesus, Apr 11, 2018.
I doubt it
I guess it depends on what they do after their careers.
OOOOOOH!! U Got us there.....
Take a walk.
and this is why you're not a Leafs fan. poor guy.
Haha, no they actually didn't.
By the way, Eichel out-scored Matthews this season on the lowest scoring team in the league in just 5 more games.
Last year he had a higher PPG too.
With the cap going up, and the Sabres where they are with all of Eichel's brilliance it would be VERY Hard to convince him to stay 8 years if not at that money.
He can compete for art-rosses if HEALTHY a full year. That's been his pace. It's been Matthews pace after this year too but that should suggest there in the same money range.
The amount of offense this KID drives playing against the best checkers and defenders every game is absolutely incredible.
Bergeron always tries to shut-down Eichel but can't. Eichel loves scoring on the Bruins.
How'a Matthews making out there?
Those who think the two players are far off are living in a fantasy world.
Matthews hasn't even scored 30 assists in a season on a Leaf team that scores so much.
Wait You rate McDavid in the top 30 and you ask him to get real. Try dropping the zero in 30 than your on the right track. Now if your talking Matthews than sure somewhere around top 30 is correct.
He should get as much if not more than McDavid because of inflation.
Drafted 1st overall, face of the Maple Leafs, one of the best young players in the game, better then Draisaitl and Eichel. So yes, he's getting over 10 mil per season.
Better than being swept by Boston in the 1st round when expectations was to win the Cup
That's some great revisionist history.
Oilers entered the season as betting favorites for the Stanley Cup, but McDavid was only able to lead them higher up the lottery boards.
Anyway, love all the non-Leaf fan input on Matthews' next contract as if him signing for 7-8M makes him an inferior player. At the end of the day that would just mean that Toronto gets a better deal on their stud.
Yup, a mighty 1 whole point more than Matthews who played 5 less games than Eichel.
This year, Auston Matthews had a higher PPG than Jack Eichel too, but let's sweep that under the carpet to prove a point.
Jack Eichel hasn't even scored 30 goals in a season when on the Sabres 1st line and played more than 2 minutes more a game than Matthews this season. Eichel's average powerplay time per game was also 3:44, while Matthews' was 2:09. Matthews faceoff percentage was 54.5% compared to Eichel's 41.5%. Matthews was a +25, Eichel -25. Do you see how easy it is to fit a narrative around an argument here?
Even last season, Eichel still didn't score 30 goals, while playing 19:55 compared to Matthews 17:38. Eichel again had more power play time last season with 2:59 while Matthews had 2:27. Matthews first season in the league(last season) he had 46.8% faceoff wins, Eichel had 38.9% last season. Jack Eichel finished with a -13, Matthews finished +2.
I don't believe they are that far off from each other either in all honesty but Matthews is definitely the better at faceoffs and plays a more two-way game, but when people cherry pick statistics to create an argument, then of course you can make player A look better than player B while not factoring in a bunch of other statistics.
Edmonton has won a playoff round with that one player they have, over a team that isn’t the chokingest joke playoff team of our era.
What has “the big three” (lolllllllll) accomplished?
Lamarellos contract is up this summer isn't it? It will be interesting who is brought in (or retained?) and negotiate his contract. I think he is worth 10+, he might not be putting up McDavid numbers but every time I watch Toronto he solely seems to be a force every time he gets on the ice. With the cap going up, other guys will be getting raises which just in turn gives agents more power to ask for more to get to similar cap % as other players who have signed.
Matthews can’t hold McDavid’s clearasil
What a joke leafs fans try to make that comparison
He recovers loose pucks and is good defensively. It bridges the 30-40 point gap.
But yeah, this is like Crosby vs Toews 2.0. Not much of a comparison to be found between these 2.
Yeah who needs points? Matthews has good whatever fancy stat suits the guy any given day.
McDavid has the better fancy stats as well, he's a much better play driver at Even Strength and the numbers reflect it.
Leaf fans need to contrive stats like 'Loose puck Recoveries' and 'being better defensively' as if there's some comparison As for the former with puck recoveries, Matthews can't carry the puck like McDavid so he's forced to dump it in when McDavid is basically an automatic entrance into the zone when he's carrying the puck so it's a dumb and skewed statistic.
Are you actually trying to compare Edmonton and Toronto? Even McDavid would say the Leafs are in a 10000x better position than they are.
Let’s just say neither team looks anywhere remotely close to winning sweet **** all hmm?
I’m hearing “loose puck retrievals” and “being better defensively” in only one voice. And it’s cracking me up.
He will sign for 10.5 to 11.5 million imo with the cap going up. I can’t fathom why anyone would think he would sign for less over a long term deal.
Because some leafs posters want him to.
“Do the right thing Auston”
Yeh....that’s not going to happen. Some players will sign a market level contract based on past achievements, etc and then breakout the next year or two (see Mark S as prime example). AM’s agent is going to get his player full market value based on % of cap compared to other franchise type players see Eichel as example. Leafs won’t be getting any discounts from AM and before anyone quotes AM saying how he loves playing for the Leafs or in TO literally/virtually every player says that.....naive to think they would say anything else. AM will get 10.5-11.5 per year on a long term deal. Anyone saying less then 10 is dreaming.
Oh Jack, back to your antics again.
Yup took 5 extra games to get 1 more point. Production is close. The third year player almost produces at the same rate as the sophomore.
Yup it is well established that the sophomore Eichel had a higher ppg than the rookie Matthews. It's still bizarre you guys take pride in this.
Tell us again how well Eichel has done in the playoffs against Bergeron before trash talking over 2 games. Tell us again how many playoff points Eichel has?
Why are you incapable of fair comparisons, people see through this nonsense you know?
I especially like how you flipped from emphasizing pure points when Matthews plays fewer games but has higher ppg and points per game when Matthews has more points. It's almost like you are trying to avoid admitting Matthews has had a better season.
I'd take your 1 extra point in 5 more games and run. I sure wouldn't brag about it.