ATD2018 - Draft Thread 3

[Johnny Engine]

"a 155 pound parcel of dynamite just asking to be detonated"

Phil Watson, C/RW

 

[BenchBrawl]

Good morning everyone!

Pick coming before I leave for work.

Good morning to you.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I think it's also extremely important to point out that a goalie is on an island. If your 1st line C gets shut down, there are 3 more behind him to help pick up the slack potentially. If your G has a bad game, that likely means your team is toast. There's no taking back bad goals and replacing a struggling netminder might give the team a jolt but at that point you're probably down 3 or 4 goals.

Agreed.Anyway, this discussion has been dragged out long enough.As it turns out, I actually like the teams with weak goalies this year.

 

[Johnny Engine]

And oh look, @Voight is up at the crack of dawn, Eastern time. I'm sure this comes as a relief to him.

 

[Voight]

a PM would have been nice, but I will pick within the hour

 

[Voight]

Thought about taking a coach of third line center here but The Amarillo Bulls will select the smooth skating defenseman from Dearborn, Michigan --- #28 Brian Rafalski!

 

[Johnny Engine]

a PM would have been nice, but I will pick within the hour

Oh shoot, sorry about that, coffee hadn’t kicked in.

 

[GlitchMarner]

The Beavers select LW Rick Martin.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Bullet Joe Simpson

That was one of the guys

 

[ImporterExporter]

The Beavers select LW Rick Martin.

He was taken already sir.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Just making sure. If a GM picks somebody already taken, can the next person (me) pick? I thought I remembered that being a rule, but didn't participate last year. Just want to be certain.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Just making sure. If a GM picks somebody already taken, can the next person (me) pick? I thought I remembered that being a rule, but didn't participate last year. Just want to be certain.

Yes, he's skipped until he makes up his pick

 

[Habsfan18]

Just making sure. If a GM picks somebody already taken, can the next person (me) pick? I thought I remembered that being a rule, but didn't participate last year. Just want to be certain.

That’s how I would assume it works, considering Hoglund technically made a pick and then likely sent you a PM telling you that you’re up. The fact that it was a player already chosen just means he’ll have to make up that pick - similar to a missed one - any time he wishes.

Again, that’s just how I assume it would work.

 

[ImporterExporter]

We'll we'll go after a stout defensive defensemen who has a pretty strong AS and Norris record for this part of the draft, especially considering he wasn't an offensive player. Incredible PK resume and another player who logged heavy ES minutes and has numbers that show he was quite effective at preventing scoring at ES.

The Pittsburgh Bankers are thrilled to add:

Jim Schoenfeld, D

Penalty Kill - Defencemen

Player	GP	SH%	TmSH+	$SHP/82
Jacques Laperriere	691	76%	0.90	2
J.C. Tremblay	796	66%	0.94	1
Marcel Pronovost	636	66%	0.96	1
Bill White	604	65%	0.88	1
Bobby Orr	657	62%	0.78	6
xxxxxxxxxxxxx	836	60%	1.08	1
Jay Bouwmeester	1071	59%	0.95	1
Serge Savard	1040	58%	0.82	2
Ray Bourque	1612	58%	0.88	2
xxxxxxxxxxxx	854	57%	0.77	1
Chris Chelios	1651	57%	0.85	2
Barry Beck	615	57%	1.01	1
Tim Horton	1010	57%	0.92	2
Jim Schoenfeld	719	56%	0.77	1
Scott Stevens	1635	56%	0.88	1
Zdeno Chara	1350	56%	0.90	2
xxxxxxxxxxx	907	56%	0.90	1
Derian Hatcher	1045	56%	0.89	1
xxxxxxxxxx	539	55%	0.84	1
Borje Salming	1148	55%	1.09	1
xxxxxxxx	783	55%	0.91	1
Chris Pronger	1167	55%	0.91	1
xxxxxxxxxx	575	54%	1.19	1
xxxxxxxxxx	644	54%	1.00	1
Denis Potvin	1060	53%	0.82	2
Harry Howell	932	53%	1.05	1
Rod Langway	994	53%	0.83	1
Adam Foote	1154	53%	0.99	1
xxxxxxxxxx	724	53%	1.05	1
xxxxxxxx	951	53%	0.93	1
xxxxxxxx	1087	53%	0.98	1
Moose Vasko	600	53%	1.00	1
xxxxxxxxx	623	53%	0.97	2
Guy Lapointe	884	53%	0.76	1
xxxxxxxxxx	705	52%	0.98	1
Duncan Keith	913	52%	0.95	2
xxxxxxxxx	796	52%	0.86	1
xxxxxxx	788	52%	0.84	2
Nicklas Lidstrom	1564	52%	0.81	2

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Even Strength - Defencemen

Player	GP	$ESP/82	$ESGF/82	$ESGA/82	R-ON	R-OFF	EV%
Bobby Orr	657	64	130	66	1.99	1.03	49%
Pat Stapleton	635	31	104	87	1.18	1.14	49%
Bill White	604	24	93	75	1.24	1.06	49%
Pierre Pilote	660	36	108	81	1.34	1.11	49%
Tim Horton	1010	24	97	83	1.16	1.17	48%
Jacques Laperriere	691	21	104	77	1.35	1.29	47%
Marcel Pronovost	636	21	93	91	1.02	0.98	46%
xxxxxxxxxxxx	808	23	85	99	0.86	0.87	46%
xxxxxxxxx	728	23	87	115	0.76	0.73	46%
Erik Karlsson	556	44	85	84	1.01	0.95	46%
Harry Howell	932	21	88	101	0.87	0.77	46%
xxxxxxx	628	33	86	82	1.05	1.02	45%
J.C. Tremblay	796	25	101	78	1.30	1.30	45%
Moose Vasko	600	19	89	83	1.07	1.09	45%
Brian Leetch	1205	33	84	80	1.06	0.97	45%
xxxxxxxxxx	792	19	74	85	0.87	0.95	45%
xxxxxxxxxx	838	26	86	88	0.97	0.90	44%
xxxxxxxxxxx	826	19	88	77	1.15	1.16	44%
Carl Brewer	533	27	100	70	1.42	1.07	44%
Allan Stanley	627	26	92	79	1.17	1.21	44%
xxxxxxxxxx	788	19	84	71	1.18	1.17	43%
xxxxxxxxxxx	509	19	83	79	1.06	1.02	43%
Jim Schoenfeld	719	20	88	68	1.29	1.19	43%
Paul Coffey	1409	41	95	77	1.23	1.20	43%
xxxxxxxxx	1024	22	81	86	0.94	1.00	43%
xxxxxxxx	889	24	96	76	1.27	1.34	43%
Borje Salming	1148	28	86	75	1.14	0.82	43%
Larry Robinson	1384	32	97	61	1.60	1.34	43%
xxxxxxxxxxx	904	29	73	81	0.90	0.82	43%
Denis Potvin	1060	36	87	58	1.49	1.23	43%
Duncan Keith	913	33	88	73	1.20	1.08	43%
Serge Savard	1040	23	94	65	1.44	1.52	43%
xxxxxxxxx	1066	17	85	68	1.24	1.04	43%
xxxxxxxxx	620	26	89	100	0.89	1.07	42%
xxxxxxxxxxxxx	889	25	82	79	1.05	0.82	42%
xxxxxxxxxxx	724	14	76	85	0.89	0.99	42%
xxxxxxxxxxx	1087	24	78	82	0.96	1.00	42%
xxxxxxxxx	1016	22	75	73	1.04	0.96	42%
xxxxxxxx	500	31	77	69	1.11	0.99	42%
Drew Doughty	688	25	72	63	1.15	1.02	42%
Scott Stevens	1635	28	83	63	1.31	1.19	42%
Guy Lapointe	884	28	91	64	1.41	1.66	42%
xxxxxxx	575	14	62	95	0.65	0.75	42%
xxxxxxx	521	35	79	78	1.02	0.92	42%
Brad Park	1115	33	89	64	1.40	1.20	42%
xxxxxx	539	33	77	68	1.13	1.14	42%
Ray Bourque	1612	35	86	63	1.37	0.95	42%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

3. Defensemen - penalty kill usage PLAYOFFS- top 50

Player	GP	PK%
xxxxxxxxxxx	57	67.7%
Scott Stevens	233	65.4%
xxxxxxxxx	50	63.6%
xxxxxxxx	52	63.0%
Serge Savard	130	62.0%
Jim Schoenfeld	75	61.8%
Jacques Laperriere	88	61.8%
Adam Foote	170	61.1%
xxxxxxxxxxx	97	61.0%
xxxxx	74	60.7%
Bill White	91	60.0%
Barry Beck	51	59.2%
xxxxxxxx	55	58.5%
Bobby Orr	74	58.3%
Hal Gill	111	58.0%
Ray Bourque	214	57.9%
J.C. Tremblay	108	57.7%
Brian Leetch	95	57.4%
Borje Salming	81	57.0%
Guy Lapointe	123	57.0%
xxxxxxx	80	56.5%
Zdeno Chara	147	56.0%
xxxxxxxx	177	55.0%
Jimmy Roberts	153	55.0%
Marcel Pronovost	63	53.7%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

A good mix of elite all-around blueliners, and defensive specialists.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Good solid guy to round out that top 4

 

[ImporterExporter]

Good solid guy to round out that top 4

Thanks RB.

I'm sending LL a message on facebook now.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Thanks RB.

I'm sending LL a message on facebook now.

Awesome and overpass is around

we might go for a run today

 

[Habsfan18]

That completes the set of top 4 D’s in the Rene Lecavalier Division:

Jacques Lapierriere - Dit Clapper
Pat Stapleton - Jim Schoenfeld

Marcel Pronovost - Al MacInnis
Barry Beck - Fern Flaman

Paul Coffey - Adam Foote
Harry Howell - Rob Blake

 

[ImporterExporter]

Awesome and overpass is around

we might go for a run today

LL just gave me the thumbs up on facebook, so hopefully we have a nice little run coming!

 

[BenchBrawl]

So what is it you guys want out of bios (for old players)? I'm asking, because I'm not sure what to include in them anymore.For example, I thought I'd include every play from game descriptions dated chronologically, so people could quickly read all those and get a cumulative "feel" for how the player played.But do people really want this or not?

By reading the game summaries/descriptions, I absorb this "feel" and this knowledge for myself, so if I'm transcripting it it's for other people, so I thought why not ask them whether they even want such a thing before spending hours working on the transcription.

The more general quotes will always be included in the bios, but I'll separate them from the descriptions.

The benefit of play descriptions is not in any isolated description, but in the "feel" you get by reading them all, unless the isolated description is referring to something more general and constant about the player's game.But maybe no one cares.If so, I won't waste my energy.

 

[Iceman]

wrong thread

 

[overpass]

Can anyone take a list for the afternoon?

 

[Iceman]

Can anyone take a list for the afternoon?

sure

 

[ImporterExporter]

Can anyone take a list for the afternoon?

I can sir. Will be around all day.

 

[overpass]

Sent to Iceman. It’s a two man list. If one of them is taken, skip me and I’ll make it tonight.