ATD2018 - Draft Thread 3

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The draft will last 25 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach and 4 extra picks.

1) The clock starts Monday, January 15th at noon (EST).

2). The time windows will be tight but reasonable.
24 hour clock for round 1
then 12 hour clock for round 2
then 10 hour clock for rounds 3-6,
then 8 hour clock for rounds 7-14,
then 6 hour clock for rounds 15-20,
then 4 hour clock for rounds 21-25

One hour time window deduction for each skipped pick (two hour deduction for missing a 12 hour clock - leave a list), with a minimum 4 hour clock guaranteed regardless of deductions.

3). Trading rules:

You cannot trade drafted players during the draft.You can only trade players once the draft is completed.
Trading is to be reasonably fair and balanced and lopsided trades will need to be re-worked or dropped. This is at the discretion of the trade committee.
Each team may make up to 8 trades.
A submitted trade counts towards the maximum, even if it is vetoed (exception - first time GMs). Don't submit lopsided trades.
No more than 4 assets per team may be traded at a time.
Swapping all positions before the draft doesn't count as a "trade" for the purposes of the above rules.
Trading while on the clock is allowed. However, using your entire clock to openly shop a pick annoys your fellow GMs, so do it sparingly. If GMs abuse trading on the clock, a rule could be added against it

4). ADD/DROPS - At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a 7 day period for add/drops. All add/drops must be 1-for-1. Dropped players will NOT be eligible to be added by other teams.

5). At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a time period (to be determined) for divisional lineup assassinations.

6). Regular season rankings MUST BE VOTED ON by at least one GM (if the team is co-GM'd) per team. The penalty if not done is a potential lowering in the standings because each GM will rank his own team first. Co-GMs who both vote each get half a vote for the regular season rankings in their own division. Seedings will be hidden and the playoff matchups will be posted and tabulated by a 3rd party.

7). The playoffs will work according to the following format:
Every division will have a divisional assassination thread, then the Top-2 teams of each division will make the playoffs.

Similar format will be in place for the 9 teams who fail to make the playoffs (bragging rights are on the line)

8). NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!!!

9). PM the next team after you have made your pick. THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL!

Clock Deductions:
VanIslander: -2 hour
Velocirapator: -2 hour
Voight: -1 hour
Darth Yoda: -2 hour

Round 1

1. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Gordie Howe, RW
2. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bobby Orr, D
3. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Wayne Gretzky, C
4. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Mario Lemieux, C
5. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Ray Bourque, D
6. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Doug Harvey, D
7. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Jean Beliveau, C
8. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Nicklas Lidstrom, D
9. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Eddie Shore, D
10. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Bobby Hull, LW
11. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionaires - Maurice Richard, RW
12. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Denis Potvin, D
13. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Larry Robinson, D
14. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Red Kelly, D
15. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Dominik Hasek, G
16. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Sidney Crosby, C
17. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Howie Morenz, C
18. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Vyacheslav Fetisov, D
19. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Jaromir Jagr, RW
20. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Stan Mikita, C
21. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Mark Messier, C/LW
22. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Frank Nighbor, C
23. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Chris Chelios, D
24. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Patrick Roy, G

Round 2

25. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Guy Lafleur, RW
26. Velociraptor HC Kunlun Red Star - Alexander Ovechkin, LW
27. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Brad Park, D
28. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Bobby Clarke, C
29. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Bryan Trottier, C
30. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Paul Coffey, D
31. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Joe Sakic, C
32. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - King Clancy, D
33. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Bill Cook, RW
34. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Phil Esposito, C
35. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Steve Yzerman, C
36. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Mike Bossy, RW
37. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Ted Lindsay, LW
38. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionaires - Al MacInnis, D
39. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Sergei Makarov, RW
40. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Pierre Pilote, D
41. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Sprague Cleghorn, D
42. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Chris Pronger, D
43. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Fred "Cyclone" Taylor, C
44. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Marcel Dionne, C
45. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Jacques Plante, G
46. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Earl Seibert, D
47. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Tim Horton, D
48. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Charlie Conacher, RW

Round 3

49. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Scott Stevens, D
50. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Teemu Selanne, RW
51. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Zdeno Chara, D
52. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Brian Leetch, D
53. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Valery Kharlamov, LW
54. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Henri Richard, C
55. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Johnny Bucyk, LW
56. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Frank Boucher, C
57. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Syl Apps Sr., C
58. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Glenn Hall, G
59. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Milt Schmidt, C
60. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Edouard "Newsy" Lalonde, C
61. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets- Peter Forsberg, C
62. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Bernie Geoffrion, RW
63. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Andy Bathgate, RW
64. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Bill Gadsby, D
65. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Aurele Joliat, LW
66. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Dickie Moore, LW
67. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Martin Brodeur, G
68. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Borje Salming, D
69. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Frank Mahovlich, LW
70. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Cy Denneny, LW
71. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Brett Hull, RW
72. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Dit Clapper, D/RW

Round 4

73. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Terry Sawchuk, G
74. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Martin St. Louis, RW
75. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Ken Dryden, G
76. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Guy Lapointe, D
77. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Boris Mikhailov, RW
78. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Mark Howe, D
79. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Jarome Iginla, RW
80. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Toe Blake, LW
81. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Valeri Vasiliev, D
82. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Bill Quackenbush, D
83. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Jack Stewart, D
84. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Serge Savard, D
85. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Jari Kurri, RW
86. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Anatoli Firsov, LW
87. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Duncan Keith, D
88. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Rod Langway, D
89. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Harvey "Busher" Jackson, LW
90. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Scott Niedermayer, D
91. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Ted Kennedy, C
92. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Rob Blake, D
93. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Pavel Bure, RW
94. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Elmer Lach, C
95. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Sergei Fedorov, C
96. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Vladislav Tretiak, G

Round 5

97. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Joe Malone, C/LW
98. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Alex Delvecchio, LW/C
99. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Norm Ullman, C
100. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Joe Thornton, C
101. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Bryan Hextall Sr, RW
102. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Sid Abel, LW/C
103. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Eddie Gerard, D/LW
104. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Syd Howe, LW/C
105. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Frank Brimsek, G
106. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Alexei Kasatonov, D
107. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Marcel Pronovost, D
108. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Shea Weber, D
109. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Erik Karlsson, D
110. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Doug Bentley, LW/C
111. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - J.-C. Tremblay, D
112. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Tommy Phillips, LW
113. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Evgeni Malkin, C
114. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Georges Vezina, G
115. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Pavel Datsyuk, C
116. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Ching Johnson, D
117. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Ernie "Moose" Johnson, D
118. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Georges "Buck" Boucher, D
119. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Hod Stuart, D
120. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Doug Gilmour, C

Round 6

121. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Ebbie Goodfellow, D/C
122. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Reginald "Hooley" Smith, C/RW
123. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Jacques Laperriere, D
124. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Clint Benedict, G
125. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Max Bentley, C
126. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Luc Robitaille, LW
127. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Drew Doughty, D
128. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Sweeney Schriner, LW
129. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Ron Francis, C
130. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Lionel Conacher, D
131. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Emile "Butch" Bouchard, D
132. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Brendan Shanahan, LW
133. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Bill Cowley, C
134. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Eric Lindros, C
135. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Henrik Zetterberg, C/LW
136. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Patrick Kane, RW
137. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Michel Goulet, LW
138. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Bert Olmstead, LW
139. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Mike Modano, C
140. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Larry Murphy, D
141. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Mats Sundin, C
142. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Vladimir Martinec, RW
143. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Carl Brewer, D
144. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Alexander Maltsev, C/RW

Round 7

145. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Art Coulter, D
146. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Dave Keon, C
147. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Mark Recchi, RW
148. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Sergei Zubov, D
149. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Adam Oates, C
150. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Babe Siebert, D/LW
151. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Charlie Gardiner, G
152. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Marty Barry, C
153. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Jan Suchy, D
154. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Cam Neely, RW
155. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Bill Durnan, G
156. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Frank Foyston, F
157. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Peter Stastny, C
158. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Tom Johnson, D
159. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Roy Conacher, LW
160. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Ed Belfour, G
161. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Turk Broda, G
162. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Dale Hawerchuk, C
163. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Ilya Kovalchuk, LW

164. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Paul Kariya, LW
165. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Lester Patrick, D

166. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Frantisek Pospisil, D
167. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Tony Esposito, G
168. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Marian Hossa, RW

Round 8

169. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Doug Wilson, D
170. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Nels Stewart, C
171. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Bernie Parent, G
172. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Harry Cameron, D
173. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Vladimir Krutov, LW
174. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Harry Howell, D
175. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Sylvio Mantha, D
176. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Patrik Elias, LW
177. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Ken Reardon, D
178. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Vladimir Konstantinov, D
179. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Daniel Alfredsson, RW
180. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - John Leclair, LW
181. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Jean Ratelle, C
182. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Alexander Yakushev, LW
183. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Gary Suter, D
184. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Mickey Mackay, C
185. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Babe Dye, RW
186. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Gibert Perreault, C
187. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Art Ross, D
188. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Ryan Suter, D
189. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Sergei Gonchar, D
190. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Bill White, D
191. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Johnny Bower, G
192. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Paul Thompson, LW

Round 9

193. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Theo Fleury, RW
194. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Allan Stanley, D
195. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Yvan Cournoyer, RW
196. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Grant Fuhr, G
197. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Billy Smith, G
198. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers Cecil Dillon, RW
199. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Patrice Bergeron, C
200. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Dany Heatley, W
201. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Harvey Pulford, D
202. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Vladimir Petrov, C
203. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Fern Flaman, D
204. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Keith Tkachuk, LW
205. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Bob Gainey, LW
206. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Jimmy Thomson, D
207. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Bill Barber, LW
208. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Eric Desjardins, D
209. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Jiri Holecek, G
210. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors, Lanny McDonald, RW
211. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors, Jonathan Toews, C
212. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents, Vaclav Nedomansky, C/RW
213. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels, Roy Worters, G
214. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Rick Middleton, RW
215. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - George Hay, LW
216. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Rod Gilbert, RW

Round 10

217. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Herb Gardiner, D
218. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Rod Brind'amour, C/LW
219. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Reg Noble, LW/D
220. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Alexander Ragulin, D
221. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Pat Stapleton, D
222. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Markus Naslund, LW
223. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Gordie Drillon, RW
224. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Helmuts Balderis, RW
225. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Lionel Hitchman, D
226. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Scotty Bowman, Coach
227. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Vladimir Lutchenko, D
228. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Glenn Anderson, RW
229. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Jack Crawford, D
230. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Didier Pitre, RW
231. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Red Horner, D
232. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Jack Walker, F
233. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Ott Heller, D
234. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Dan Boyle, D
235. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Toe Blake, Coach
236. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Brad McCrimmon, D
237. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Punch Broadbent, RW
238. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Al Arbour, Coach
239. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Steve Larmer, RW
240. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Darryl Sittler, C

Round 11

241. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Babe Pratt, D
242. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brian Propp, LW
243. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Anze Kopitar, C
244. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Jere Lehtinen, W
245. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Mike Gartner, RW
246. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Daniel Sedin, LW
247. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Rick Martin, LW
248. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Denis Savard, C
249. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Bob Goldham, D
250. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Henrik Sedin, C
251. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Guy Carbonneau, C
252. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Elmer "Moose" Vasko, D
253. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Joel Quenneville, Coach
254. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Woody Dumart, LW
255. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Jacques Lemaire, C
256. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Adam Foote, D
257. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Lester Patrick, Coach
258. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Claude Provost, RW
259. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Bob Pulford, LW/C
260. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Herbie Lewis, LW
261. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels Alf Smith, RW
262. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Frank Fredrickson, C
263. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Fred Shero, coach
264. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Zigmund Palffy, RW

Round 12

265. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Larry Aurie, RW
266. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Tommy Ivan, coach
267. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Doug Mohns, D/LW
268. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Dick Irvin Sr, coach
269. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Ryan Getzlaf, C
270. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Glen Sather, coach
271. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Hap Day, D
272. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Dave Taylor, RW
273. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - George Armstrong, RW
274. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Bobby Rousseau, RW
275. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18- Kenora Thistles - Cecil Hart, coach
276. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Derian Hatcher, D
277. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Mike Grant, D
278. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Lawrence "Baldy" Northcott, LW/D
279. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Wayne Cashman, LW/RW
280. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Tommy Gorman, coach
281. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Anatoli Tarasov, coach
282. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Pat Quinn, coach
283. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Corey Perry, RW
284. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Mike Peca, C
285. TinyZombies - NDG Maroons - Vyacheslav Starshinov, C
286. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Jamie Benn, LW
287. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mike Babcock, coach
288. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Cooney Weiland, C

Round 13

289. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Neil Colville, C
290. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Gus Mortson, D
291. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Jeremy Roenick, C
292. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Pavol Demitra, LW/C
293. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Steve Shutt, LW
294. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Art Duncan, D
295. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Bernie Morris, RW/C
296. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Steven Stamkos, C
297. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Hap Day, coach
298. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Craig Ramsay, LW
299. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Gary Roberts, LW
300. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Dean Prentice, LW
301. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Walt Tkaczuk, C
302. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Igor Larionov, C
303. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Russell Bowie, C
304. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Fred "Bun" Cook, LW
305. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Duke Keats, C
306. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Phil Housley, D
307. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Jiri Holik, LW
308. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - John Tonelli, LW
309. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Nicklas Backstrom, C
310. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Art Ross, coach
311. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Ed Westfall, RW
312. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Brent Burns, D

Round 14

313. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Smokey Harris, LW
314. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Joe Mullen, RW
315. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Sergei Kapustin, LW
316. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Ralph Backstrom, C
317. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Gordon Roberts, LW
318.
TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Johnny Gottselig, LW
319. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Phil Goyette, C
320. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Jimmy Ward, RW
321. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Tony Leswick, LW/RW
322. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Lloyd Cook, D
323. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Tony Amonte, RW
324. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Cecil ‘Tiny’ Thompson, G
325. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Joe Klukay, W
326. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Barry Beck, D
327. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Ken Hodge, RW
328. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Esa Tikkanen, LW
329. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Pat Burns, coach
330. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Joe Simpson, D
331. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Phil Watson, C/RW
332. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Brian Rafalski, D
333. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Teppo Numminen, D
334. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Jim Schoenfeld, D
335. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bob Baun, D
336. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Alexander Mogilny, RW

Round 15

337. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Brad Marchand, LW
338. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Peter Bondra, RW
339. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Frank Patrick, D
340. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Vincent Damphousse LW/C
341. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Pat Lafontaine, C
342. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Cy Wentworth, D
343. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Leo Boivin, D
344. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Joe Hall, D
345. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Butch Goring, C
346. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Mike Ramsey, D
347. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Danny Gare, RW
348. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Vic Stasiuk, W
349. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Kevin Hatcher, D
350. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Clark Gillies, LW
351. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Don Marshall, LW
352. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Bobby Bauer, RW
353. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Don Marcotte, LW
354. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Joe Nieuwendyk, C
355. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Claude Lemieux, RW
356. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Joe Primeau, C
357. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Jim Neilson, D
358. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Bob Nevin, RW
359. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Leo Reise Jr., D
360. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Ryan Kesler, C/RW

Round 16

361. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Bert Corbeau, D
362. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Nick Metz, LW
363. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Ted Green, D
364. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Shane Doan, W
365. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Ace Bailey, RW
366. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Terry Harper, D
367. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Pete Green, coach
368. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Marty Pavelich, LW
369. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - William "Flash" Hollett, D
370. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Doug Jarvis, C
371. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - PK Subban, D
372. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Rick Tocchet, RW
373. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Kevin Lowe, D
374. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Pit Lepine, C
375. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Joel, Otto, C
376. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Red Dutton, D
377. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Oddie Cleghorn, RW
378. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Frank Finnigan, RW
379. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - George "Punch" Imlach, coach
380. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Dino Ciccarelli, RW
381. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Victor Hedman, D
382. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Eric Nesterenko, RW
383. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Charlie Simmer, LW
384. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Alex Pietrangelo, D

Round 17

385. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Rusty Crawford, LW/D
386. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bernie Federko, C
387. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Don Luce, C
388. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Henrik Lundqvist, G
389. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Peter Laviolette, Coach
390. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Hugh Lehman, G
391. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Dick Duff, LW
392. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Bill Mosienko, RW
393. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Ken Mosdell, C
394. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Bob Johnson, coach
395. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Sandis Ozolinsh, D
396. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Dirk Graham, RW
397. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - George Hainsworth, G
398. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Dave Andreychuk, LW
399. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Owen Nolan, RW
400. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Derek Sanderson, C
401. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Zach Parise, LW
402. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Kris Letang, D
403. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Bill Guerin, RW
404. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Sid Smith, LW
405. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Harry Watson, LW
406. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Don McKenney, C/LW
407. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Rick Nash, LW
408. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Pat Egan, D

Round 18

409. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Roger Neilson, Coach
410. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Reed Larson, D
411. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Jerry Toppazinni, RW
412. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Lennart Svedberg, D
413. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Vitaly Davydov, D
414. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Daryl Sutter, coach
415. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Boris Mayorov, LW
416. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Floyd Curry, RW
417. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Vladimir Shadrin, C
418. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Bill Hajt, D
419. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Ted Harris, D
420. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Brent Sutter, C
421. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Tom Barrasso, G
422. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Jean Guy Talbot, D
423. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Rob Ramage, D
424. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Gary Bergman, D
425. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Tim Kerr, RW
426. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - John Madden, C/LW
427. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Bobby Rowe, D
428. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Kimmo Timonen, D
429. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Brad Richards, C
430. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Si Griffis, D
431. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Kirk Muller, LW
432. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Dave Poulin, C

Round 19

433. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Glen Harmon, D
434. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Dale Hunter, C
435. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Phil Kessel, RW
436. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Kevin Stevens, LW
437. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Ed Litzenberger, RW
438. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Hap Holmes, G
439. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Bobby Holik, C/LW
440. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Harry Lumley, G
441. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Ivan Hlinka, C
442. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - David Backes, C/RW
443. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Mats Naslund, LW
444. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Yuri Lyapkin, D
445. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Brian Sutter, LW
446. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Steve Kasper, C
447. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Vladimir Vikulov, RW
448. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Fleming MacKell, C/LW
449. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Edgar Laprade, C
450. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Ken Hitchcock, Coach
451. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Patrick Marleau, LW/C
452. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Dave Balon, LW
453. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Gump Worsley, G
454. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Vic Hadfield, LW
455. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Bob Bourne, F
456. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Milan Novy, C

Round 20

457. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Eddie Oatman, RW/D
458. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Jean Pronovost, RW
459. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Nikolai Sologubov, D
460. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Kris Draper, C
461. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Claude Giroux, C
462. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Brian Campbell, D
463. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Marty Walsh, C
464. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Jiri Bubla, D
465. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Chuck Rayner, G
466. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Veniamin Alexandrov, LW
467. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Jimmy Watson, D
468. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Pat Verbeek, RW
469. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Mike Richards, C
470. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Reggie Leach, RW
471. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Ron Ellis, RW
472. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Igor Liba, LW
473. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Dave Burrows, D
474. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Mike Keenan, Coach
475. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Ed Sandford, LW
476. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Joe Pavelski, F
477. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Ulf Samuelsson, D
478. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Blair Russell, F
479. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Bob Nystrom, RW
480. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Rene Robert, RW

Round 21

481. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Curtis Joseph, G
482. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Wally Stanowski, D
483. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Wilf Paiement, RW
484. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Alexei Kovalev, RW
485. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Brian Rolston, F
486. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Ron Stewart, RW
487. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Larry Robinson, Coach
488. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Willie Mitchell, D
489. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Andrei Markov, D
490. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - JP Parise, LW
491. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Ed Giacomin, G
492. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Adam Graves, LW
493. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Paul Reinhart, D
494. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Percy Leseur, G
495. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Murray Oliver, C
496. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Ray Getliffe, LW/C
497. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Roberto Luongo, G
498. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Rogie Vachon, G
499. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Brent Seabrook, D
500. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Lynn Patrick, LW
501. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Bob Davidson, LW
502. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Arkady Chernyshev, coach
503. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - John Vanbiesbrouck, G
504. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Camille Henry, LW/C

Round 22

505. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Rod Seiling, D
506. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Bob Armstrong, D
507. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Alec Connell, G
508. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Carol Vadnais, D
509. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Lars-Erik Sjoberg, D
510. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Carey Price, G
511. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Gillies Tremblay, LW
512. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Dave Trottier, LW
513. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Todd Bertuzzi, W
514. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Taffy Abel, D
515. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Tommy Smith, C/LW
516. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Mathieu Schneider, D
517. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Ken Morrow, D
518. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Bernie Nicholls, C
519. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Dustin Byfuglien, D
520. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Red Sullivan, C
521. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Jerry Korab, D
522. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Tim Thomas, G
523. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Victor Kuzkin, D
524. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Mike Liut, G
525. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Ray Whitney, LW
526. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Jonathan Quick, G
527. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Mike Richter, G
528. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Hamby Shore, D

Round 23

529. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Jack Darragh, RW
530. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Taylor Hall, LW
531. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Nikita Kucherov, RW
532. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Justin Williams, RW
533. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Steve Duchesne, D
534. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Jack Adams, C/LW
535. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Marian Gaborik, RW
536. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Victor Shalimov, RW
537. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Miikka Kiprusoff, G
538. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Rejean Houle, F
539. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Wade Redden, D
540. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Blake Wheeler, RW
541. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Doug Risebrough, C
542. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Gennady Tsygankov, D
543. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Pete Muldoon, Coach
544. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Ken Randall, RW/D
545. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Cully Wilson, RW/C
546. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Viktor Tikhonov, Coach
547. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Pierre Turgeon, C
548. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Terry O’Reilly, RW
549. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Gregg Sheppard, C/LW
550. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Pete Mahovlich, C
551. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Patrick Sharp, RW
552. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Jeff Carter, C/RW

Round 24

553. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Sergei Bobrovsky, G
554. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Keith Primeau, C
555. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Randy Carlyle, D
556. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - Bruce Stuart, F
557. rmartin65 - New York Americans - Billy Reay, Coach
558. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Jim Roberts, RW/D
559. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils- Doug Barkley, D
560. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Marc-Edouard Vlasic, D
561. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Vasili Pervukhin, D
562. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Ron Hextall, G
563. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Stephane Richer, RW
564. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Trevor Linden, C/RW
565. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Doug Weight, C
566. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Brian Bellows, W
567. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Eduard Ivanov, D
568. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Viktor Yakushev, F
569. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Frank McGee, C
570. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Hec Kilrea, LW
571. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Bruce MacGregor, RW/C
572. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Eric Staal, C
573. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Darius Kasparaitis, D
574. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Rick MacLeish, C/LW
575. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Tod Sloan, C/RW
576. overpass - Ottawa Senators - John Tavares, C

Round 25

577. overpass - Ottawa Senators - Frank Boucher, coach
578. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Niklas Kronwall, D
579. ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh Bankers - Craig Hartsburg, D
580. 29GoalHoglund - Brampton Beavers - Ryan Smyth, LW
581. Voight - Amarillo Bulls - Jay Bouwmeester, D
582. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Oilers - Art Chapman, C
583. tinyzombies - N.D.G. Maroons - Albert "Battleship" Leduc, D
584. Namba 17 - Portage Lakes Hockey Club - Gordon "Red" Berenson, C/LW
585. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Milan Lucic, LW
586. Darth Yoda - Pominville Estacades - Gerry Cheevers, G
587. Habsfan18 - Vancouver Millionares - Craig Ludwig, D
588. Iceman - Stockholm Rockets - Gaye Stewart, LW
589. Claude the Fraud - Winnipeg Jets - Robert Svehla, D
590. papershoes & Hawkey Town 18 - Kenora Thistles - Neal Broten, C
591. kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Kenny Wharram, RW
592. Johnny Engine - Guards Athletic Association - Jack Marshall, C/D
593. Sprague Cleghorn - Algerie - Jay Woodcroft, coach
594. TheDevilMadeMe & Dreakmur - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Dave Kerr, G
595. TorontoTrades - Port Stanley Sailors - Claude Julien, coach
596. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Ernie Russell, C/RW
597. Stoneberg & markrander87 - Halifax Citadels - skipped, pick asap
598. jarek - Kingsman Secret Agents - Konstantin Loktev, RW
599. Velociraptor - HC Kunlun Red Star - Dion Phaneuf, D
600. VanIslander - Worcester Railers - Vsevolod Bobrov
 
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Thanks for making the new thread 87and71. Since I'm often away from my computer for 12-18 hours at a time now, I'd probably be a poor choice for that. I'm just going to repost what I said in the last thread, because I think this is important, as we really had no idea who really killed penalties on the Soviet (and Czech) teams before:

Thanks for bringing up the study on Soviet penalty killing, jarek. I was going to do it eventually if you weren't. Makarov/Krutov was the top Soviet PK pair for many tournaments in the 80s, so of course they can PK here. Anyone know which of Krutov and Makarov was the one taking faceoffs?

Based on that study, here is what I see as the PK abilities of already drafted Soviet forwards in ATD terms:

Could be 1st unit PK but might not be due to ice management: Sergei Makarov, Vladimir Krutov
Viable 2nd unit PKers: Vyacheslav Starshinov, Anatoli Firsov, Boris Mikhailov, Vladimir Petrov, Alexander Maltsev
Viable Depth (3rd unit?) PKers: Valeri Kharlamov, Helmuts Balderis, maybe Igor Larionov
Should never be on the PK: Sergei Kapustin
 

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Regarding the question of who took the faceoffs on the Krutov/Makarov pairing it was Krutov who did it. As far as I remember the only times that Makarov took faceoffs was when he was on the 3 on 5. Regarding Krutovs faceoff ability it should be noted that he also took his fair share of faceoffs at even strenght. And I am not only talking about when Larionov was thrown out of the circle.
 

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Regarding the question of who took the faceoffs on the Krutov/Makarov pairing it was Krutov who did it. As far as I remember the only times that Makarov took faceoffs was when he was on the 3 on 5. Regarding Krutovs faceoff ability it should be noted that he also took his fair share of faceoffs at even strenght. And I am not only talking about when Larionov was thrown out of the circle.

Really cool stuff, thanks!

Seems like Krutov and Makarov stirred that pot a lot more than we had given them credit for. Makes me wonder if Larionov wasn't just a passenger.
 
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Kapustin was a solid pick IMO.I remember last year, if I had missed out on Jamie Benn to play with Frank Fredrickson, Kapustin was my next choice.

The soviet PK study is really informative and interesting stuff, thanks to Batis for doing it and to TDMM for summarizing what it means at the ATD level.
 

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Kapustin was a solid pick IMO.I remember last year, if I had missed out on Jamie Benn to play with Frank Fredrickson, Kapustin was my next choice.

The soviet PK study is really informative and interesting stuff, thanks to Batis for doing it and to TDMM for summarizing what it means at the ATD level.

It also gives Krutov a fellow countryman to fraternize with on my team.
 
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What's the read on Kapustin's defensive game? Reading Sturm's bio, there's pretty much nothing on it.

In short, he doesn't really have much of one. Not much said about that part of his game, either good or bad. In real life, he played on a line with Balderis and usually some nobody at center who would take on the defensive responsibilities, which suits me just fine. The Kapustin - Fredrickson - Nedomansky line should dominate lower units consistently.
 
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In short, he doesn't really have much of one. Not much said about that part of his game, either good or bad. In real life, he played on a line with Balderis and usually some nobody at center who would take on the defensive responsibilities, which suits me just fine. The Kapustin - Fredrickson - Nedomansky line should dominate lower units consistently.

Maybe but some of the lower units in this draft are quite good
 
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Maybe but some of the lower units in this draft are quite good

As is mine. The thing that should separate the Fredrickson line from most is that they are very fast and physically overwhelming. They are going to get on defensemen quickly and they will be relentless. Not going to be a lot of fun being up against them.
 
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As is mine. The thing that should separate the Fredrickson line from most is that they are very fast and physically overwhelming. They are going to get on defensemen quickly and they will be relentless. Not going to be a lot of fun being up against them.

What also separates them is that they are a pretty weak defensive unit for a bottom 6 (relying exclusively on Fredrickson to counteract Nedomansky's complete lack of interest in defense). That said, you can kind of afford that sort of thing when your first line is built around Nighbor.
 
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As is mine. The thing that should separate the Fredrickson line from most is that they are very fast and physically overwhelming. They are going to get on defensemen quickly and they will be relentless. Not going to be a lot of fun being up against them.

Your lineup of Nighbor - Mackay - Frederickson with accompanying wingers, I have no issues rolling my Taylor - Ullman - Weiland units against that
 
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What also separates them is that they are a pretty weak defensive unit for a bottom 6 (relying exclusively on Fredrickson to counteract Nedomansky's complete lack of interest in defense). That said, you can kind of afford that sort of thing when your first line is built around Nighbor.

It is meant as a scoring line, pure and simple. When they go out there, their job will be to put the puck in the net. I don't expect they will encounter too many situations where they will be forced to play defensively, but that's going to depend on the matchups I guess.
 
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Your lineup of Nighbor - Mackay - Frederickson with accompanying wingers, I have no issues rolling my Taylor - Ullman - Weiland units against that

That won't be up to you - I'm not familiar with Blake as a coach but did he like to roll his lines like that?
 
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That won't be up to you - I'm not familiar with Blake as a coach but did he like to roll his lines like that?

Also, knowing how you intend to deploy your team, and perhaps you don't have the answer yet but was Art Ross much of a matchup guy? Because it seems if he wasn't your strategy might not work
 
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Also, knowing how you intend to deploy your team, and perhaps you don't have the answer yet but was Art Ross much of a matchup guy? Because it seems if he wasn't your strategy might not work

I'm fairly certain he was, at least sometimes. He used a line with Barry (what was considered his first line) at one point to match against the other team's best players. During the 1939 cup win, he used a 3rd line as a defensive line, although it wasn't clear if it was used to check the other team's top line. It sounded more like they were meant to eat up minutes in order to give the Cowley and Schmidt lines some rest.

Skimming through the book, it seemed more like he was a flexible guy that adapted his strategies to the team he had.

I hadn't realized this before but Ross actually has some experience coaching a few of my players, namely Denneny, Fredrickson and Mackay.
 
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Ross qualifies as a guy who won Stanley Cups with two very different teams. The only constant between both wins was Clapper and Shore, and Clapper hadn't really hit his stride yet in '29.
 
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