ATD REDUX: #4 Chicago Cougars vs #5 Nova Scotia Voyageurs

[Claude The Fraud]

I’ll come back later to post the rosters.​

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[tinyzombies]

yodelayeeooo

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

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let’s just post our own rosters in these two spots…


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Chicago Cougars

Coach: Toe Blake

Dickie Moore - Norm Ullman - Guy Lafleur
Brad Marchand - Bill Cowley - Larry Aurie
Tony Leswick - John Madden - Bob Nevin
Artemi Panarin - Igor Larionov (A) - Bobby Bauer

Doug Harvey - Fern Flaman
Ebbie Goodfellow (C) - Derian Hatcher (A)
Rod Seiling - Lennart Svedberg

Terry Sawchuk
Pekka Rinne

*There really is no distinction between the 3rd and 4th line, more of a 3a/3b, which line gets more minutes may vary game to game, depending on the situation.

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Spares: Viktor Kuzkin (D), Brendan Morrow (LW), Bill Thoms (C)
*Blake has the option for a more physical and better defensive 3rd line if he starts Morrow in place of Panarin
**Leswick can play both wings

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PP1
Moore – Cowley – Lafleur
Harvey – Svedberg

PP2
Marchand – Ullman – Larionov/Panarin
Flaman – Goodfellow

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PK1
Madden – Nevin
Harvey – Hatcher

PK2
Leswick – Aurie
Seiling – Flaman

Extra PK F: Marchand
Extra PK D: Goodfellow
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[tinyzombies]

Nova Scotia Voyageurs

Coach: Hap Day
Captain: Mario Lemieux
Assistant: Bill Cook
Assistant: Dit Clapper

Tommy Phillips - Mario Lemieux - Bill Cook
Dany Heatley - Nicklas Backstrom - Helmuts Balderis
Clark Gillies - Jonathan Toews - Mike Gartner
Rick Martin - Pat Lafontaine - Odie Cleghorn
Nate MacKinnon
Lynn Patrick

Guy Lapointe - Dit Clapper
Lionel Conacher - Jack Crawford
Bobby Rowe - Barry Beck
Dave Burrows

Glenn Hall
Hap Holmes

PP1:
Clapper
Lemieux - Cook - Backstrom
Lapointe

PP2:
Balderis
Heatley - Lafontaine - Martin
L. Conacher

PK1: Toews, Phillips, Lapointe, Clapper
PK2: Cleghorn, Gartner, L. Conacher, Crawford​

 

[tinyzombies]

	VsX7 Points	2021 ATDR TEAM
Guy Lafleur	104.5	CHI
Bill Cowley	97	CHI
Norm Ullman	89.5	CHI
Dickie Moore	85.4	CHI
Brad Marchand	83.8	CHI
Bobby Bauer	74.6	CHI
Bill Thoms	72.7	CHI
Larry Aurie	71.6	CHI
Ebbie Goodfellow	69.6	CHI
Doug Harvey		CHI
Terry Sawchuk		CHI
Fern Flaman		CHI
Toe Blake		CHI
Derian Hatcher		CHI
Igor Larionov		CHI
Tony Leswick		CHI
Bob Nevin		CHI
Artemi Panarin	72.4	CHI
John Madden		CHI
Lennart Svedberg		CHI
Viktor Kuzkin		CHI
Brenden Morrow		CHI
Pekka Rinne		CHI
Rod Seiling		CHI
Mario Lemieux	119.8	NS
Bill Cook	96	NS
Nicklas Backstrom	87.7	NS
Dany Heatley	81	NS
Lynn Patrick	79.4	NS
Pat Lafontaine	78.5	NS
Dit Clapper	73.7	NS
Jonathan Toews	73.7	NS
Rick Martin	73.1	NS
Nathan Mackinnon	80.1	NS
Mike Gartner	68.8	NS
Glenn Hall		NS
Guy Lapointe		NS
Lionel Conacher		NS
Tommy Phillips		NS
Jack Crawford		NS
Helmut Balderis		NS
Hap DayCoach		NS
Clark Gillies		NS
Barry Beck		NS
Bobby Rowe		NS
Odie Cleghorn		NS
Hap Holmes		NS
Dave Burrows		NS

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

@tinyzombies Thanks for posting the vs.X table. Brad Marchand's score seems to be incorrect, should be 83.8

source: Reference - VsX comprehensive summary (1927 to 2021)

Edit: MacKinnon is off too, 80.1

 

[tinyzombies]

@tinyzombies Thanks for posting the vs.X table. Brad Marchand's score seems to be incorrect, should be 83.8

source: Reference - VsX comprehensive summary (1927 to 2021)

Edit: MacKinnon is off too, 80.1

Shouldnt MacK be in the lineup then?

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Shouldnt MacK be in the lineup then?

He should if 7yr vs.X is the only thing that matters...but it's not.
Anyway, your team, your call

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

It should also be noted that both Dit Clapper and Ebbie Goodfellow played seasons at forward, which very likely is where their best vs.X years came from. As both of these guys are playing D here, their scores aren't really relevant.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Panarin’s score is missing: 72.4

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

I have very little time this week, so might as well address the biggest strength of my opponent, which is his top scoring line of Phillips - Lemieux - Cook.
(Glenn Hall is also a big strength for NS, but that's basically a wash with Sawchuk at the other end).

I think Chicago is well suited to handle Nova Scotia's dangerous top line, and that starts with their shut down pairing of Harvey - Flaman. Harvey is elite defensively and Flaman was one of the best stay at home Dmen of his time. Joe Pelletier called him the Scott Stevens of his day. Flaman obviously wasn't as good as Stevens, but he was a great defensive player, very physical, and rarely lost a fight. This pairing reminds me a bit of the Harvey - Butch Bouchard pair, and should be one of the best shut-down pairings in the draft.

From TDMM's bio:
1958 Coach's poll (the only such poll we have for the Original 6 period):

• Doug Harvey won for "best defensive defenseman." Flaman and Pronovost are the only other two defensemen with votes.
• Flaman finished 1st for "best fighter."

Up front, Chicago has a great shutdown line of Leswick - Madden - Nevin that will get extra minutes this series.

While the Madden line is the preferred matchup, Chicago is also comfortable having the Moore - Ullman - Lafleur line go power vs. power if needed. Ullman and Moore are both strong two-way players, and there's plenty of fire power between the 3 of them to be a dangerous threat going the other way. The threat of quick transition from Harvey to Lafleur would force any opponent to be extra careful, making it more difficult for the D to support the offense.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Congrats TZ! Good luck going forward

 

[tinyzombies]

Congrats TZ! Good luck going forward

Thanks man.

 

[VanIslander]

Cool.