Prospect Info: At 30th Overall the Predators Select Eeli Tolvanen

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nine_inch_fang

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Whether or not playoff games count toward burning the year on the ELC is a big question. If they don't count and he wouldn't be here for at least 9 games would he and his agent want to do it?

I would think these questions are all things that a GM has to deal with before the deal line. I'm assuming the Preds aren't at the contract maximum...
 

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If he comes over this year and we burn the year off his ELC, his ELC will be up at the same time as Josi's contract. If not, and we sign him so that his contract starts at the start of next season, his ELC ends at the same time as Bonino's contract. Something to think about for Poile.

If he's truly all in now that shouldn't matter.
2)Burning a year from his ELC this year should lower his 2nd contracts cap hit. He'll have 2 years instead of 3 to prove his worth.
 

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The end of the season could then be an audition. If his game doesn't translate right away he can ride the bench and practice with the team during the playoffs.
 
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Jokerit playing in an outdoor game in Helsinki against SKA tomorrow. Expected to break the KHL attendance record of 17,073.
 

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All this discussion about bringing him over for the playoffs ... he isn't under contract with Nashville, right? So he'd have to sign a contract prior to the trade deadline to be eligible to play in the playoffs (unless that rule has been changed). Won't his KHL team still be playing then? So it seems unlikely he'll be coming over for the playoffs.
 

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All this discussion about bringing him over for the playoffs ... he isn't under contract with Nashville, right? So he'd have to sign a contract prior to the trade deadline to be eligible to play in the playoffs (unless that rule has been changed). Won't his KHL team still be playing then? So it seems unlikely he'll be coming over for the playoffs.

Yeah the only reason Radulov was allowed to play was because of how he left with a year left on his contract with Nashville. It was a big deal for other teams, especial Detroit since it looked like we would have them in the first round (we, of course, did).
 

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All this discussion about bringing him over for the playoffs ... he isn't under contract with Nashville, right? So he'd have to sign a contract prior to the trade deadline to be eligible to play in the playoffs (unless that rule has been changed). Won't his KHL team still be playing then? So it seems unlikely he'll be coming over for the playoffs.

Yeah the only reason Radulov was allowed to play was because of how he left with a year left on his contract with Nashville. It was a big deal for other teams, especial Detroit since it looked like we would have them in the first round (we, of course, did).
This is what I was asking. Thanks for the info.
 

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Yep lost the 2nd best player in the team O'Neill but he'll come back in January. Been playing with absolute scrubs lately.
 

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With the news of Russia being banned, where does this put Tolvanen? If he goes to the Olympics, wouldn't the KHL break his contract so he can't come back? Does that open it up for a late season rental for us? Obviously this relies upon a lot of variables, but it opens up the possibility of him joining a lot earlier than expected.
 

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I’m sweating thinking about him being on our team.
Seriously doubt that he’ll be on the team at anytime this year. A man can dream though..
 

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I didn't know if there were any upcoming negotiations or anything (wasn't assuming so), because all this talk of him coming over late season seems pretty moot without it

He can't come over this year. Jokerit would have to void his contract and allow him to sign with Nashville, and that would have to happen before the TDL on the 26th of February (the KHL season would still be going on, and Jokerit is in third in the Western Conference so they are looking at playoffs). If for some reason Jokerit falls out of playoff contention, he would still have to have his contract voided before the trade deadline. Otherwise, he could sign a contract with us but would be ineligible to play any games.
 

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He can't come over this year. Jokerit would have to void his contract and allow him to sign with Nashville, and that would have to happen before the TDL on the 26th of February (the KHL season would still be going on, and Jokerit is in third in the Western Conference so they are looking at playoffs). If for some reason Jokerit falls out of playoff contention, he would still have to have his contract voided before the trade deadline. Otherwise, he could sign a contract with us but would be ineligible to play any games.

There are no CBA restrictions to Tolvanen playing in Nashville this year (that I have found), although he would have to sign an NHL SPC and he's yet to do that. Unless his contract is more than a 1 year contract, Jokerit would not need to void the contract so long as he fully completes it.

The rub, of course, is that the KHL regular season goes into April. And then there's the playoffs.

If Tolvanen is free from his responsibilities with Jokerit, and Nashville is still playing on a deep run, it would not shock me to see him sign an SPC and join the Black Aces in Nashville. I don't expect to see him play at all in a Nashville uniform this year.
 
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