Around the League Part 8: Welcome to the league Vegas, and Duchene discussion

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  1. HisIceness

    HisIceness Pissed off Canes fan

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    The regular season is almost here. New team coming into the league, and where will Duchene go talk commence.
     
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    the halleJOKEL strong as brickwall

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    tavares will be here january 4th 2018, will take 3 days after NYI self imposed deadline of jan 1st before fielding offers
     
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    Wolfpuck Highest Boss

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    With Fabbri out for the season, I think the Blues are a perfect fit for Jagr.

    Which of course means that it has no chance of happening.
     
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    Roboturner913 Likely never played

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    I don't want Duchene right now. I like how this team sets up as-is. With Necas much closer to being an NHL player than anybody thought, and Aho transitioning to C within the next couple years, we don't need to be desperate in the long term for a center. In the short term, we're likely good enough to be in the running for a playoff spot and make a deadline deal when the time comes.

    Having said that, if Detroit ends up having to trade Athanasiou, he would be a nice depth addition that wouldn't cost too much to acquire.
     
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    geehaad Registered User

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    It all comes down to your belief that this group of forwards is good enough to get you into the playoffs versus the belief that subtracting Hanifin and adding Duchene can get it done. I have faith in the former, but not the latter. And I know that sounds crazy, given that things aren't tremendously different than last year, but I never believed things needed to be tremendously different.

    I agree with your assessment on Necas. Even if he isn't a true 1C, he's certainly good enough to be part of a three-2C team next year. At that point, the center position is adequately handled by what is already in the system, there's no need to move Aho off the wing, and there's no cause to trade any defensemen out of need. You then have the luxury of doing something baller like trade VRask + Bean/Fleury/Hanifin + 1st for a young center stud and you've done nothing to hurt your cap situation nor the quality of your lineup. Next year we will all have stiffies as we look over our asset landscape...Kuokkanen, Roy, Gauthier, and Bean will all either be making our NHL team better or another team will be licking their chops wanting them.
     
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    Eloquently stated. The things that do and don't escape the filter amaze me
     
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    Roboturner913 Likely never played

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    It is an odd cir***stance.

    (apparently they fixed that one already)
     
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    Vagrant The Czech Condor

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    Curious to see how the Josh Anderson situation in Columbus is going to resolve. They seem to be okay without him. Wonder what the price tag is on that kind of move.
     
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    I've been wondering about that too. A big right winger that scored at a great rate with limited ice time, and isn't afraid to mix it up physically sounds pretty tempting to add. But he's got more than a couple red flags that I could see Francis being weary.

    He shot over 14%, so it's possible for his scoring to dip even with more playing time. He's already in a contract hold out as a non arbitration eligible RFA, so how much is he really asking for, and does the team want to put up with that associated headache? And even if they have confidence in signing him fairly and moving forward, what would be the cost to trade for him within division? That seems like a lot of possible snags.
     
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    Yes, more middle-6 forwards please. We can play up to 12 of them.
     
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    Anton Dubinchuk aho

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    Well in fairness you need at least 6 of them... Skinner is clearly a top liner, Staal is a non-traditional one, and it's very possible Aho is one as well.

    So we've got 3 "top line" guys. 9 middle 6 forwards wouldn't be bad...
     
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    Anderson seems like a good replacement for Stempniak if he ends up being out long term. Stempniak is also a free agent after this season. It doesn't hurt to bring in a guy like Anderson in your middle 6 if management likes him.
     
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    Jagr would be a good replacement for Stempiak
     
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    OK, if we're selling Staal as a first-line NHL center, we're really not being objective anymore. We have one legit first-line NHL player. Aho is headed that way but not there, and despite his rookie season, not guaranteed of anything. I really didn't think we'd be at the point of having to prove we need a first-liner again, but alas ...
     
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    So if its not forcing an early trade of a young defender for a first line forward then we shouldn't try to improve the team in any other aspect? If you say so.
     
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    Name 93 forwards better?

    I'm guessing you're not a fancystats type guy?

    Edit: went and factchecked myself, looks like our The Athletic season preview agrees with me, with those three and only those three being classified as top 93 forwards. Then three second liners.
     
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    someone needs to hurry up and sign jagr

    he has resorted to creating memes

     
  18. SvechniCanesCup2019

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    Either Jagr has the laziest cat ever or he just spent hours finessing the perfect C3 (Cat + Cuervo + Cash) pic. I mean, the fact that he used $20s really just completes it for me.

    I didn't know the Canes needed Jagr until this very moment. I won't take no for an answer at this point.
     
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    I find it both strange and amusing that Jagr is still buying plastic bottles of Cuervo. With all the money he's made, I'd never buy anything that's not 100% agave.
     
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    Dude. His cat clearly bought that Cuervo -- and I'm sure Jagr keeps the cat on a pretty tight budget.
     
  21. HisIceness

    HisIceness Pissed off Canes fan

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    Thats how you save money.
     
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    If there's anything Ive learned in life: millionaires are the biggest cheap asses in the world. No joke
     
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    Once the Seattle Thunderbirds get into the league, they will sign Jagr to a 5yr/$25 million contract.
     
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    Maybe if we all do like Jagr does and drink from plastic bottles, maybe we too will become millionaires.
     
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    You can take the boy out of Kladno....

    It's true though. I knew a girl (when I lived in NC, actually) who was family friends with this old guy who was worth a lot of money. 11 million or 14 million I was told, can't remember which but one of those two. She brought me over there one time when she was feeding his pets while he was gone. He drove an old beater Plymouth sedan with rust holes in the doors and lived in this 2-bedroom tiny bungalow house looked that like it hadn't been remodeled since the late 60s/early 70s. The bathroom was about the size of a small walk-in closet and the furniture was all tattered and shabby. And it was about 85 degrees in the house, I assumed because he turned he A/C off being gone for the week, but then she was like "no it's always like that in here, he refuses to use the air conditioner even when somebody visits."
     

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