Getzlaf is a better overall passer yes. But he doesn't pass through traffic and find seams the way Marchesseault does. Mostly cause he doesn't try. Not because he doesn't have the capability. Idk. Maybe I was being overzealous but if you watch the goals Marchesseault feeds to Karlsson, I'd think Rakell can finish more of them. I'm just saying if he had been there instead of Wild Bill and had the chemistry Rakell could have better numbers. Or at least the same numbers.
He's shooting 24% because of how often Marchesseault and Smith find him with an open net to shoot at. Sure part of that is luck but not exclusively. Rakell gets plenty of goals on his own creativity and drive to the net.Maybe if Rakell shot 25 percent for a whole year. But he is more likely to do that playing with Getzlaf than Marchesseault. Karlsson is having possibly the luckiest season (in terms of everything going in) in the past couple of decades.
He's shooting 24% because of how often Marchesseault and Smith find him with an open net to shoot at. Sure part of that is luck but not exclusively. Rakell gets plenty of goals on his own creativity and drive to the net.
It's easy to just look at a number and assume 1/4th of the time Wild Bill flings a softie at the net the goalie brain farts and lets it in and he's just getting lucky but that's not what's happening. Maybe the goal today where Smith got a glove on it but it tipped past him sure, but that's not the bulk of what's actually happening.
Obviously its a big world and this board has been around for a long time. But this is one of the worst takes I've ever read on hf.Getzlaf is a better overall passer yes. But he doesn't pass through traffic and find seams the way Marchesseault does. Mostly cause he doesn't try. Not because he doesn't have the capability. Idk. Maybe I was being overzealous but if you watch the goals Marchesseault feeds to Karlsson, I'd think Rakell can finish more of them. I'm just saying if he had been there instead of Wild Bill and had the chemistry Rakell could have better numbers. Or at least the same numbers.
But Rakell is the better player and that's my main point.
Getzlaf playmakes far more consistently. That's not what I'm arguing. Their passing style and decision making is distinctly different.Obviously its a big world and this board has been around for a long time. But this is one of the worst takes I've ever read on hf.
I'm not ignoring them; they don't change anything. Even a cursory glance at Getz's highlights shows dozens of passes like you're describing, including one just last night. And that's just the ones that result in goals.Getzlaf playmakes far more consistently. That's not what I'm arguing. Their passing style and decision making is distinctly different.
Way to ignore the next two sentences though.
It’s Boogernaut, he’s only here for the hot takes! In all seriousness, Getz style doesn’t need threading the needle type passesGetzlaf playmakes far more consistently. That's not what I'm arguing. Their passing style and decision making is distinctly different.
Way to ignore the next two sentences though.
I'm not ignoring them; they don't change anything. Even a cursory glance at Getz's highlights shows dozens of passes like you're describing, including one just last night. And that's just the ones that result in goals.
Responding to both by responding to you. I never claimed Getzlaf needed that for his playmaking. What Getzlaf does is finding passing lanes and angles that most wouldn't think of and executes brilliantly. Much of the time Getzlaf's own imposing size gives him the time to make those passes without strict pressure.It’s Boogernaut, he’s only here for the hot takes! In all seriousness, Getz style doesn’t need threading the needle type passes
I too will bet my hfboards account on the fact that this will be his highest goal output in his career .. I do think he could be a strong playmaker tho with his skillset(that's why I wont put the bet on points)I watch Karlsson a lot, I’ve been a big fan of his since we drafted him. But it’s not just a matter of him getting tap ins. Even when players are getting set up point blank frequently they still miss all the time. Karlsson is finishing and deserves to be commended for that but in reality they won’t keep going in at this rate no matter how many open nets he gets. And let’s be honest Marchesseault is good but there are other players who put the puck on their teammates sticks in high percentage a lot more than he does. And their linemates aren’t converting at the rate Wild Bill is.
I would be willing to bet my hfboards account that Karlsson doesn’t shoot above 15 percent next season. I would also bet he’s held under 30 goals. Hell I would be surprised if he eclipses 25. He’s a second liner who has had everything go right for him.
I don't think there is a better pure playmaker than Getzlaf in today's game. McDavid maybe? I feel like Getz has taken over for Joe Thornton in that position
Fun fact, Getz is 5th in total assists over the last 5 seasons, within 20 assists of 1st (Backstrom), having played about 40 fewer games. He's also one point behind Crosby/Malkin in playoff points over that span, in 14 fewer games. In fact he's already top 40 all-time in playoff assists. At 32. This guy doesn't get the kind of credit he deserves for his career or for the level he plays at 90% of the time, even from this board.I don't think there is a better pure playmaker than Getzlaf in today's game. McDavid maybe? I feel like Getz has taken over for Joe Thornton in that position
All karlsson goals are one timers, rebounds and tap ins that's why his shooting percentage is so high.
Nobody playing in the sunbelt ever will.Fun fact, Getz is 5th in total assists over the last 5 seasons, within 20 assists of 1st (Backstrom), having played about 40 fewer games. He's also one point behind Crosby/Malkin in playoff points over that span, in 14 fewer games. In fact he's already top 40 all-time in playoff assists. At 32. This guy doesn't get the kind of credit he deserves for his career or for the level he plays at 90% of the time, even from this board.
When they thought they could get him to Toronto. How's that talk been since he re-signed in TB?Stamkos, though?
I thought we were talking about praise and acclaim from fans and/or journos, not awards per se. Because if we talk awards then that's absolutely and completely obvious, quite in the same vein as us still not having had a draft or an all-star weekend or anything of the sort. Small market visibility is way lesser and will forever be.