I think we're stuck in the HF boards long term play mentality. The time is now boys.
The time is the next 1-3 years currently, no need to accelerate this into 1 year. I don't want to lose Backs+ to keep Duchene.
I think we're stuck in the HF boards long term play mentality. The time is now boys.
I think we're stuck in the HF boards long term play mentality. The time is now boys.
pass. creates a new hole in order to add a luxury
Honestly, is adding Jagr going to be that much of an upgrade over Jankowski or Brouwer if he bounces back? No. He's a 40 point winger that isn't going to bring much more than offense. Jankowski would be good for 25+ points in a top 9 role IMO, is that extra 15-20 points worth losing one of our best penalty killers? To me it's not.Theoretically, I like moving Stajan to upgrade our wing.
We have plenty of guys that can play Center in the bottom six and can play PK. We have far less guys that can play an offensive role on wing in the top 9.
I don't really want to lose Stajan, but if it's downgrading from Stajan to Jankowski or Freddie Hamilton and adding a Jagr I'm okay with that.
Granted, it's purely hypothetical, as outside of Pittsburgh I'm not sure there are many teams in the market for a Stajan, especially at his salary. And of course, who says a Jagr comes here.
Honestly, is adding Jagr going to be that much of an upgrade over Jankowski or Brouwer if he bounces back? No. He's a 40 point winger that isn't going to bring much more than offense. Jankowski would be good for 25+ points in a top 9 role IMO, is that extra 15-20 points worth losing one of our best penalty killers? To me it's not.
Agree on certain points, but I think Jagr brings a particular offensive game that is lacking in our top 9 outside of maybe Tkachuk, and that is along the boards. He is still an absolute pain in the ass to get the puck from if you are trying to take it away from him on the boards. Infinitely helpful both on the cycle and the PP.
I think the downgrade from Stajan to one of our other PK centers, whether it be Jankowski, Bennett, Freddie Hamilton etc isn't nearly as big as adding the element I mentioned. Especially if our PK has already been upgraded by adding Hamonic and Stone to it, as well as Smith who can clear the dump ins by himself.
I do agree it's a downgrade, and that from purely a points perspective there isn't a significant difference between a Brouwer bounce back, Bennett breaking out, Ferland being consistent, whatever. I just think that there is a lot that Jagr brings off the ice too. He's a great mentor for a lot of young guys, and I think that Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk, Bennett can all learn a lot from him.
TL;DR I'm not happy to lose Stajan, but I would be happy to gain Jagr's board presence and mentorship capabilities at the cost of downgrading our 4th line center.
Would be sick to see Tkachuk and Bennett going for midnight leg-weighted skates with the old man!I also agree about his leadership ability, I think there's a reason Florida always tried to play him with their kids. Having a guy who's had that sort of a career on the team would be fantastic.
I think we're stuck in the HF boards long term play mentality. The time is now boys.
Agree on certain points, but I think Jagr brings a particular offensive game that is lacking in our top 9 outside of maybe Tkachuk, and that is along the boards. He is still an absolute pain in the ass to get the puck from if you are trying to take it away from him on the boards. Infinitely helpful both on the cycle and the PP.
I think the downgrade from Stajan to one of our other PK centers, whether it be Jankowski, Bennett, Freddie Hamilton etc isn't nearly as big as adding the element I mentioned. Especially if our PK has already been upgraded by adding Hamonic and Stone to it, as well as Smith who can clear the dump ins by himself.
I do agree it's a downgrade, and that from purely a points perspective there isn't a significant difference between a Brouwer bounce back, Bennett breaking out, Ferland being consistent, whatever. I just think that there is a lot that Jagr brings off the ice too. He's a great mentor for a lot of young guys, and I think that Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk, Bennett can all learn a lot from him. We've seen guys like Giroux, Benn, Barkov, Huberdeau, etc all benefit from playing with him and breaking out while playing with him.
TL;DR I'm not happy to lose Stajan, but I would be happy to gain Jagr's board presence and mentorship capabilities at the cost of downgrading our 4th line center.
It's hilarious how opinions of Jagr changed when he came back from Russia. Before going he was widely known as a self centered jerk. Now suddenly he's this great mentor.
Personally, I think there is a good reason why a team he's been on hasn't won anything since his first couple years in the league.I guess I'm still too young. Growing up Jagr was still a legend, despite what happened in Washington. I remember his Hart trophy level performances with the Rangers, and what he's done since coming back does speak levels in my opinion.
I guess I'm still too young. Growing up Jagr was still a legend, despite what happened in Washington. I remember his Hart trophy level performances with the Rangers, and what he's done since coming back does speak levels in my opinion.
Personally, I think there is a good reason why a team he's been on hasn't won anything since his first couple years in the league.
Personally, I think there is a good reason why a team he's been on hasn't won anything since his first couple years in the league.
The Habs have nothing we want for BennettHey guys, Habs fan coming in peace, just looking for some info on Sam Bennett.
As you know, Habs are looking for a C. I think the style Bennett plays is exactly what the coach/mgmt team are looking for. What happened last year with Sam?
Also, how is he at C vs W? Do you project him long term as a C or W?
Finally, are you at all open to moving him? Would the return need to be roster player(s), prospect(s), or picks? I know you moved a bunch of picks recently. What are the org needs?
Guy on CP who had his source confirmed by a mod previously I believe says Iginla is really close to signing with the Flames. Who knows if it's actually legit, but I'm excited nonetheless.
Guy on CP who had his source confirmed by a mod previously I believe says Iginla is really close to signing with the Flames. Who knows if it's actually legit, but I'm excited nonetheless.
As in the same rumor we heard a few pages back, or more new information?
As in the same rumor we heard a few pages back, or more new information?
what is the posters name? I'd like to go read it for myself