I like the line of PRV, Lander, Harti. Lander does have to improve on his FO% and I think it is only a matter of time before they start to put points up.
Injury Report: Anton Lander
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Dont disagree but it doesnt work that way at each level.. Gagner would have be even better if he played for Timra.. There is no way Lander steals away a top 6 spot from RNH of Gagner.. Just because you have great success in lower leagues does not mean it will translate into NHL.. Lennart friggin Petrell had 10 goals in Euorope this season but will never be expected to be offensive in NHL.. Lander will have to carve out a similar career for himself. He plays well with Paajarvi and Hartikainen so he has a hope of sticking on the big club.. Aside from that and his work ethic he would not be a big upgrade on other 3rd\4th liners in this league...
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The point was that in Timrå, Anton Lander had a diffrent role, which means that he had possibilites and chances to do certin things on the ice which his role in the oillers dont let him do. When he does adjust and can expand his game in that role, you will see more of what we in Sweden saw 
And "Europe" is a continent with over 40 diffrent countries, so to say, "he scored goals in Europe" means absolutely nothing...
And "Europe" is a continent with over 40 diffrent countries, so to say, "he scored goals in Europe" means absolutely nothing...
The point was that in Timrå, Anton Lander had a diffrent role, which means that he had possibilites and chances to do certin things on the ice which his role in the oillers dont let him do. When he does adjust and can expand his game in that role, you will see more of what we in Sweden saw
And "Europe" is a continent with over 40 diffrent countries, so to say, "he scored goals in Europe" means absolutely nothing...
I love Lander and he is one of my favorites. But I would never have him in a top 6 role. He has more heart than alot of players, he is willing to learn. He doesn't have great hands, and he didn't in Timrå either. In Timrå he made things happen with his heart, but I think he will need to improve alot for doing that in the NHL level. My biggest knock on him is his speed and acceleration.
I really really hopes he can stay here long time.
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I like Lander, but he was a marginal/below average top 6 center in the AHL, so I would say to expect anything more than a 3C would be a pipe dream.
Lander is what he is, a valuable player that makes up for his lack of offensive instincts with his intangibles. That's my take after watching him the past two seasons in OKC atleast.
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"Day-to-day". Bone bruises are hard to judge - range from days to weeks to months. He had a boot and crutches on at the game last night, so don't get your hopes up for him on Saturday. Maybe next week if he's made of titanium if he heals well.
Best not rush him and get him re-injured.
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It's basically all on the swelling probably. Once he can comfortably fit his foot into a skate and it doesn't hurt to skate around he'll be good. Hell, I've heard of guys using a skate bigger to just fit it in...But that's probably more of a playoff type thing.
Pretty much every player coming into the league has been a dominant force before they made their NHL debut. That's why they're in the league in the first place. But the NHL is a different animal, so much higher level than anything else in the hockey world.
I think it isn't that surprising that some Swedes expect big things from Lander. He has more than once been compared to Zetterberg since their careers, development curves and qualities are quite similar (except that Lander chose to come over at the age of 20 while Zetterberg came over at age 22).
Personally I can acknowledge that there are several things that these player have in common (I'm obviously considering Zetterberg at the age of 21-22). That said I would say that it is very very unlikely that Lander will become a new Zetterberg (my personal opinion is that it won't happen), but who knows.
I do think that he will be able to lock down a 3rd centre spot once he has polished up the parts of his game that is still lacking, probably within a year or two.
Hopefully he'll be good to go soon, I really want to see more of him in the Oilers before this season is over.
Personally I can acknowledge that there are several things that these player have in common (I'm obviously considering Zetterberg at the age of 21-22). That said I would say that it is very very unlikely that Lander will become a new Zetterberg (my personal opinion is that it won't happen), but who knows.
I do think that he will be able to lock down a 3rd centre spot once he has polished up the parts of his game that is still lacking, probably within a year or two.
Hopefully he'll be good to go soon, I really want to see more of him in the Oilers before this season is over.
Yeah but come on, that was always a somewhat ridiculous comparison. They have/had simlarities on the defensive side of the game and the fact they were always smart players. But Zetterberg always had better hands and vision than Anton and also is/was a better skater. Anton has always been a leader, hardworking, smart defensively, ok playmaking skills, matured early and thus putting up ok but never great offensive numbers.
I think Anton will improve slightly offensively and become a solid 3rd line center, swedes tend to take a little time adjusting to the NHL and usually don't put up big numbers the first couple of seasons. He's already NHL ready on the defensive side of the game IMO. FO's was a strength of his before he came into the league so I think he'll figure it out.
Will probably be a great guy to have in the playoffs down the road. IF we ever get there...
Why do I have to come on? I agree with basically everything you write. I was just trying to reason over the fact that many Swedes have high expectations and what lies behind it. I don't think he'll become a Zetterberg, or even 1/2 a Zetterberg, but can I understand where these comparisons come from.
Same here, but one thing that needs to be pointed out in terms of his face off % is that he is already a close 3rd after Horcoff (Belanger no 1) when looking at EV faceoffs at 47%. His total faceoff % goes down due to the faceoffs taken short handed where he generally goes up against the other teams no1 or no2 guy. That's no excuse but still.
edit: This is also valid for last year by the way. Lander at 43.3% FO% but remove the SH FO's and he climbs to 46%. Also noteworthy that he was no 3 in the number of SH faceoffs taken (44).
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Sry if I came off douchy, wasn't my intention. Just that the comparison as such always bothered me since it imo was quite a stretch and gave people expectations that'll never be met.
I like Anton, I think he'll be a great guy to have on our roster, he's the kind of player you need to go far in the post-season.
One thing everyone has to remember is that these 3rd liners, PK and defensive specialists ususally take a bit longer to arrive than offensive players since it's less about raw talent and more about smartness and physicality. Lander will be fine.
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The point was that in Timrå, Anton Lander had a diffrent role, which means that he had possibilites and chances to do certin things on the ice which his role in the oillers dont let him do. When he does adjust and can expand his game in that role, you will see more of what we in Sweden saw
And "Europe" is a continent with over 40 diffrent countries, so to say, "he scored goals in Europe" means absolutely nothing...
Keep in mind he had every chance to do what ever he wanted in OKC.
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You thrust your pelvis, huh!
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pretty much what we all expected.... so RNH is banged up, gagner is healthy, belanger should be back to being healthy in a few more days.... horcoff out for 4-6 weeks, lander out for 4-6 weeks
i guess VV will get an extended callup now, and then we have to pray no more centers get injured, and that RNH doesn't re-aggrevate his injury... or (i know, its crazy talk) tambo actually makes a hockey trade to fill a need
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time for Tambo to do something
Horcoff and Lander out a long time so we're down to RNH-Gagner-Belanger-VV
who knows how long RNH's shoulder will hold up
trade for ROR already Tambo!
Horcoff and Lander out a long time so we're down to RNH-Gagner-Belanger-VV
who knows how long RNH's shoulder will hold up
trade for ROR already Tambo!
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
The Avs won't give him to us without a significant piece going back the other way. As unfortunate as it is, the Avs aren't going to deal within the division.
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Zetterberg is a late bloomer and drafted in 7th round, lander is a second rounder so the comparison isnt out of line in age 21. Then that zetterberg developed to a first line stellar C was a surprise at least for the scouts, there were 209 player taken at the draft in front of zetterberg.
The whole Zetterberg being a late bloomer thing isn't quite true, reason he got drafted so late is likely that he played SEL3 with Timrå his draft year. He played against senior players as an 18 year old. He was near PPG in the SEL age 20 on a weak Timrå team. Not really a late bloomer and always an offensively gifted player.
As compared to Lander it's more the case of Lander being a really early bloomer who matured quickly and made his debut in the SEL age 16, which might have hindered him developing his offense but at least draft day he was drafted as a responsible two way centerman who could top out as a #2C if his offense got going but a safe bet as a good 3rd line C.
When he broke out some said he could be a number one but I think that was mainly from being impressed with him being so young playing against men. He was always unflashy and well-rounded, never lights out offensively.
Sorry for going a bit off the rails here.
On topic sucks for him having a broken foot, especially as he'd had a great chance to break into the big club with Horcoff gone.
