another good article on the present situation

[bhawk24bob]

it comes from tim sassone, probably the most respected hockey writer in chicago (i know, there's only 3 of them). i especially like the part about edmonton and its owner, because as we all know, reality is hard to handle sometimes.

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sports_story.asp?intID=38384156

Click to read more...

 

[lazaer]

unless they fix the problems in the league who is going to want to buy these teams.

 

[Mess]

The Shots at Wirtz and Jacobs makes the article a great read ..

 

[Crazy Lunatic]

The Shots at Wirtz and Jacobs makes the article a great read ..

Those are owners that operate "within their budgets". Thats what all the player apologists want... a league full of Wirtzs' and Jacobs'.

 

[oil slick]

link seems dead. is it an old article?

 

[Russian Fan]

Bettman is simply a lost cause. He is a pawn for the hard-line owners such as Boston's Jeremy Jacobs, the Blackhawks' Bill Wirtz and those groups who own the Edmonton Oilers and Calgary Flames that insist they can't survive unless there is a new system that includes a hard salary cap.

The same goes for the owners of the Carolina Hurricanes, Nashville Predators and the other so-called small-market clubs Bettman is bending over backward to appease.

The same goes for Bill Wirtz, the billionaire Hawks owner, and Boston's Jacobs, both of whom have fortunes but refuse to spend it to be competitive. If Wirtz can't operate without a salary cap, then sell the team to somebody who will make the Hawks a great franchise again instead one that finds itself the butt of jokes for how it is run.

That's exactly my thoughts !

 

[mooseOAK*]

Sure there are guys like Wirtz around putting pressure on Bettman for the wrong reasons but I believe that the majority of the owners just don't want to lose their shirts on the franchise, they aren't in it to make a lot of money. If they were an NHL franchise is a dumb way to do it if you aren't in a few of the biggest markets.

 

[jcab2000]

Those are owners that operate "within their budgets". Thats what all the player apologists want... a league full of Wirtzs' and Jacobs'.

Yeah, fans love them.

 

[Slats432]

The link...she no work....

 

[Biggest Canuck Fan]

it comes from tim sassone, probably the most respected hockey writer in chicago (i know, there's only 3 of them). i especially like the part about edmonton and its owner, because as we all know, reality is hard to handle sometimes.

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/sports_story.asp?intID=38384156

I think it was a spectacular article.

I do want to say this... I truly believe the NHL can survive without a cap. The Owners just have to govern themselves and the players and everyone else cannot cry collusion.

Bottom line.

If the Owners say, "We are not going to over spend and we have rules in place to prevent this from happening" then why should the PA care.

 

[mooseOAK*]

I think it was a spectacular article.

I do want to say this... I truly believe the NHL can survive without a cap. The Owners just have to govern themselves and the players and everyone else cannot cry collusion.

Bottom line.

If the Owners say, "We are not going to over spend and we have rules in place to prevent this from happening" then why should the PA care.

If the owners agree among themselves not to spend money then the PA will definitely cry collusion.

 

[Ar-too]

The Owners just have to govern themselves and the players and everyone else cannot cry collusion.

Bottom line.

If the Owners say, "We are not going to over spend and we have rules in place to prevent this from happening" then why should the PA care.

Owners governing themselves = collusion

 

[Mess]

If the owners agree among themselves not to spend money then the PA will definitely cry collusion.

Now that is Priceless ..

Owners set out to run profitable businesses, like any other company in the world by trying to keep cost down and the PA will File collusion ..

The main purpose of a Hard Cap is to control mistakes and spending by foolish GM's that hurt everyone ..

This post of yours is a GEM ..,

 

[Biggest Canuck Fan]

And that is my point.

Remember Roenick said the owners have to spend wisely? No one put a gun to their head?

So as I said the owners are damned if they do, and damned if they don't.

 

[mooseOAK*]

Now that is Priceless ..

Owners set out to run profitable businesses, like any other company in the world by trying to keep cost down and the PA will File collusion ..

The main purpose of a Hard Cap is to control mistakes and spending by foolish GM's that hurt everyone ..

This post of yours is a GEM ..,

How naive.

NHL or any other sports franchises are not "like any other company in the world".

If, in their efforts to run a profitable business the owners agree not to sign any free agents thereby depriving the players a chance to earn money then the NHLPA will be screaming collusion. And they would be correct.

The only way for that not to happen is to have cost control built into the CBA.

 

[SENSible1*]

Owners governing themselves = collusion

Except through a CBA, hence their bargaining stance.

 

[Biggest Canuck Fan]

By the way... this is collusion...

A secret agreement between two or more parties for a fraudulent, illegal, or deceitful purpose.

So if the owners outright tell the players we will not pay those salary demands, and if other owners say we will not either, and there is no secret agreement to drfraud or decieve, then how is it collusion?

 

[mooseOAK*]

By the way... this is collusion...

A secret agreement between two or more parties for a fraudulent, illegal, or deceitful purpose.

So if the owners outright tell the players we will not pay those salary demands, and if other owners say we will not either, and there is no secret agreement to drfraud or decieve, then how is it collusion?

At the very least they will have to prove in a court of law that it is not collusion and just an amazing coincidence because the NHLPA would not stand idly by and let that happen.