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Got this off sportsnet in the hearsay section. Did anyone in Vancouver hear this???
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/hearsay.jsp
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/hearsay.jsp
JWI19 said:Got this off sportsnet in the hearsay section. Did anyone in Vancouver hear this???
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/hearsay.jsp
mymkovski said:He said he doesn't want a cap, however he also explains that the players need to realize the necessity of a cap for the future of the NHL.
PecaFan said:Talk about totally misreading somebody's statement. He's not saying he doesn't support a cap. He's saying he wishes it hadn't come to this.
It's like the parent who says "I shouldn't have to force a curfew" on his daughter. Had things been done properly, grounding or a curfew would not have been needed.
OlTimeHockey said:"Andy Murray, bench boss of the Los Angeles Kings, told the Team 1040 in Vancouver that he doesn't believe the league should adopt a salary cap. "It's a free enterprise system," Murray said, "and the Kings should be able to pay money based on the revenues they earn." While Murray does't like the idea of a cap, he understands that may be the only way to fix the league's current woes."
X8oD said:wanting and Needing in order to survive are not the same things.
I bet you 100% of the NHL GMs doesnt want a cap. They would prefer that the business be well enough to support itself like MLB does.
But i bet 100% of the NHL Gms Need a Cap in order to turn their business around, and 80% of the GMs need a cap in order to keep their team around to SEE it turn around.
perfect world, no cap, everybody is making money, and NHL is a top 2 sport. Reality, Teams need a Cap, Player saleries are The worst in relation to revenue then of any Sport in the world, and the NHL is barely a Major 4 Sport.
Russian Fan said:No Cap but 100% REVENUE SHARING = top 2 sports
Cap is a myth.
Russian Fan said:No Cap but 100% REVENUE SHARING = top 2 sports
Cap is a myth.
CarlRacki said:Come again?
Russian Fan said:it's my opinion but I never thought the NFL was successful because they have a cap.
I never thought the NBA was successful because they a soft cap.
REVENU SHARING is what will make 30 markets successful & able to be competitive.
Mix that with a non-related business but so important to make the NHL successful. Stiffer actions on the rules. (Referee)
Did you notice that 3rd & goal in the NFL with a possibility to win the game, if the team do something wrong, it will be CALLED ?
99-98 in the NBA , 3 seconds to go in the game, if a penalty need to be call. Too bad it's over.
In hockey we tend to think that doing that is changing the results of the game but I always thought it's the opposite.
To get back on the revenue sharing , I don't see how the bottom 10 teams financially can succeed financially with a cap between 32 to 40M$ when those team doesn't have more revenue but more expenses.
CarlRacki said:OK, but just so you know neither the NFL or NBA have 100 percent revenue sharing. The NFL's is closer to 67 percent and the NBA's is roughly 35 percent.
I agree with you on the penalty situation.
Russian Fan said:it's my opinion but I never thought the NFL was successful because they have a cap.
I never thought the NBA was successful because they a soft cap.
REVENU SHARING is what will make 30 markets successful & able to be competitive.
Mix that with a non-related business but so important to make the NHL successful. Stiffer actions on the rules. (Referee)
Did you notice that 3rd & goal in the NFL with a possibility to win the game, if the team do something wrong, it will be CALLED ?
99-98 in the NBA , 3 seconds to go in the game, if a penalty need to be call. Too bad it's over.
In hockey we tend to think that doing that is changing the results of the game but I always thought it's the opposite.
To get back on the revenue sharing , I don't see how the bottom 10 teams financially can succeed financially with a cap between 32 to 40M$ when those team doesn't have more revenue but more expenses.
Russian Fan said:Aside to get me back on the numbers of what the other sports are using to share their revenues. Don't you think revenue sharing is far more important than a cap that doesn't adress the bottom 10 of the league financially ?
kerrly said:Revenue sharing works in complete conjunction with a cap. Revenue sharing alone still allows markets to skyrocket past others with big money to spend on players. I agree that MEANINGFUL revenue sharing needs to be part of the next CBA along with linkage, or else it would be disaster with only one or the other. Its seems alot of pro PA'ers are unfamiliar with the NHL's plan to implement revenue sharing. Please read this......
http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=125951
CarlRacki said:No. I think you need them both. Or if not a cap, some serious disincentive for extreme spending.
Unless you have 100 percent revenue sharing - and nobody does - some teams will always have more money than others. This is because of market size, ticket demand, broadcast fees, etc. And some owners of those more prosperous teams will be willing always to use their inherent financial advanatges to outbid the less wealthy teams for elite players. The only thing that can somewhat even the playing field is a cap or a severe tax. And by severe, I mean something significantly more than what the PA is proposing or the NBA's 50 cents on the dollar.
OlTimeHockey said:I'd say that you're mistaken. Based upon the following, I think it's abundantly clear that he does NOT want a cap, and thinks that a "free enterprise system", (as he puts it), should be the law of the land:
"Andy Murray, bench boss of the Los Angeles Kings, told the Team 1040 in Vancouver that he doesn't believe the league should adopt a salary cap. "It's a free enterprise system," Murray said, "and the Kings should be able to pay money based on the revenues they earn." While Murray does't like the idea of a cap, he understands that may be the only way to fix the league's current woes."