Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by Helmethead, Mar 8, 2005.
can i please get some opinions on this guy from people who have seen him play?thanks.
He's one of the more consistant Giants. I'd say he's pretty gritty, and plays/is adapting to the North American style of game. The kid's got some offensive flair to boot as well.
Put it this way, going 23rd overall, was a nice pick for Ottawa. If I were to guess what he'll turn out to be, I'd say a top 2/3 defenceman, based on his current progression.
From what I've gathered from followers of the Giants he does everything well but nothing at an elite level aside from maybe shooting the puck. Thus he projects to be a very nice #2 guy, but not a franchise player or even a #1 defenseman. At 23rd overall we got ourselves a great prospect.
Who knows though, his stock can still rise/fall a bit yet. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he does surpass those expectations. Worst case scenario he probably becomes a PP quatreback, which we Sens fans have to be prepared for even if it seems unlikely given his current level of play (but who saw Emery's weak season coming?).
I see him most games, has progressed greatly. His shot is also pretty damn good, to the poster above. He has a big blast form the point.
You dont have to worry about Meszaros just becoming a powerplay specialist, the Slovak's a man amongst boys (at times) at the junior level. Big and strong 6'1''/6'2'' 205 pounds, Dre' certainly holds his own out there on the ice. And if you've never seen him play - he's got an absolute cannon of a slapshot.
must be nice for the giants to be able to unload brule's huge shot or meszaros.
I'm just wondering why can't meszaros be a franchise dman? Huge shot, gritty, hard worker, great hockey sense, skating. etc.
I haven't seen him play i'm just wondering.
I was just expressing the feel I got off of followers of the Giants. I hope he proves me wrong. He does dominate at the CHL level at times it would seem (as MB said) but he's not doing it at the consistancy of say....... Phaneuf, to carry a franchise tag IMO.
But all I have to go from is boxscores, online hearsay, and about 10 games from the WJC's and my subscription to all SN regions. I've been pretty impressed but not to the point where I'd consider him a franchise talent just yet. If he continues to make huge strides sure.
I guess this is where the varrying opinions of "franchise" come into play. For me, a #1 defenseman isn't automatically a franchise guy. Pronger is a franchise defenseman IMO for example where as Redden, a #1 dman in many eyes (although not mine) is definatly not in my book.
He's got #1 d-man potential, absolutely.
I've seen him 5 or 6 times this year, and he impressed the hell out of me. Him, Barker and Smid are gonna be very, very good defenseman out of the 2004 draft.
I thought he was only an offensive specialist, since some people compared him to Sandis Ozolinsh last year. Those comparisions are pathetic. He's very steady defensively and is physical too. He is a great skater too. As you can see, it's hard to find a weakness in his game.
Chara - Redden - Meszaros. Now that's a big three.
But franchise? Nah.. like someone said, franchise defenseman are really hard to find... IMO... Lidstrom, Pronger, Niedermayer, Blake and that's it. Meszaros isn't at that level though.
if you were to compare him to a current nhler who would it be?
Yeah Ohlund sounds about right from what i've seen. Put it this way......he will be better than Hainsey. LOL
Maybe a Schneider type.
I've seen him twice live this year and several times on tv and this is a great comparison. He's incredibly strong and looks bigger than his height/weight suggest. Definitely an NHL frame. He's very smart with the puck and has the physical tools to go along. 1st pairing upside easily.
well i guess that was a nice trade i made then. i knew he was better than hainsey from the few times i seen him at the wjc's.i don't have to much faith in hollywood anymore.
Although I can see the Ohlund comparison, I can't see the Schneider one. I like Schneider a lot, always have, but his defensive game is not great, and his lack of size is a problem. That just doesn't fit with Meszaros though. Meszaros may not have the offensive upside that Schneider has though.
Another comparison that has come to me is Nick Boynton.
Hossa....what do you think of a more physical Brad Stuart comparison?
I like Meszaros, but man oh man, he can be a real bonehead sometimes. Granted I've only seen him about 3-4 times this season god, learn not to be so dumb at times. Needless hitting from behind, needlesss hit sticks, etc.
And I thought you would say his loss of pucks. I still shiver at one of his mistakes at last years WC's.
He makes a pass behind his back, behind his OWN net, WITHOUT looking if the space is clear. Thankfully, we didnt concede but I was afraid.
Stuart is one of the more under-rated overall defenseman in the league. If Mes became a Stuartplayer but more physical, it would be a borderline franchise defenseman. I don't see his ceiling that high.