Proposal: Ana/Edm (Blockdestroyer)

anezthes

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I don't think it's terrible by any means, but I don't think the money works.

RNH (25) -- 3 years / 6M
Larsson (25) -- 3 years / 4.2M
Yamamoto (19) -- 2 years / 925K

Rakell (24) -- 4 years / 3.8M
Silfverberg (27) -- 1 year / 3.75M
Montour (24) -- RFA

I think we'll be able to sign Monty to a relatively cheap contract, and I'd rather just trade Silfverberg if his contract demands are too high.
 

Lacaar

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You have to take into account that the 3 Edmonton players would play much better for Anaheim.
While the 3 Anaheim players would play much worse for Edmonton.

It's the Oiler factor. We never get the best out of our players. There's tons more player than it appears.
Meanwhile Anaheim gets a shit ton out their players. They'd be shells of their past selves once Oielritis grasps hold of them.
 
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While this is a terrible deal for the Ducks (Rakell is the best player in the deal), the Kesler looks done.
Kesler deserves a chance to actually recover from his injury of course we are all concerned about his future but he's got 6 months to get better. He had to completely relearn how to skate which alot of ppl don't know
 

AvatarAang

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I can't think of a forward on the ducks that is more untouchable than Rakell

Did you even think of Anaheim's needs or is this just another proposal that Edmonton wins in a landslide?
 

quacktastic93

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To Edmonton: Rakell, Silfverberg & Montour.

To Anaheim: RNH, Larsson & Yamamoto.



Edmonton get their puckmoving defenceman in Montour, great winger for McDavid in Rakell and a defensive specialist in Silfvermountain.

Anaheim get their #2 center, a top-4 defensive defenceman on a great contract and a high-end forward prospect in Yamamoto.

Would possibly benefit both teams in terms on needs?
why is it every f***ing time i see a ducks trade proposition it ends up with ana getting f***ing shit on. do all the other teams honestly think we dont know the talent and worth of our own players?
 

lwvs84

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While this is a terrible deal for the Ducks (Rakell is the best player in the deal), the Kesler looks done.

Kesler is likely done being a high end/elite 2C. If he recovers enough from the surgery over the offseason, I think he can still be a high end 3C/low-mid end 2C. The guy is smart and motivated enough to still be good enough, body permitting.
 

HanSolo

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I don't think it's terrible by any means, but I don't think the money works.

RNH (25) -- 3 years / 6M
Larsson (25) -- 3 years / 4.2M
Yamamoto (19) -- 2 years / 925K

Rakell (24) -- 4 years / 3.8M
Silfverberg (27) -- 1 year / 3.75M
Montour (24) -- RFA

I think we'll be able to sign Monty to a relatively cheap contract, and I'd rather just trade Silfverberg if his contract demands are too high.
It's terrible.
 

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I don't think it's terrible by any means, but I don't think the money works.

RNH (25) -- 3 years / 6M
Larsson (25) -- 3 years / 4.2M
Yamamoto (19) -- 2 years / 925K

Rakell (24) -- 4 years / 3.8M
Silfverberg (27) -- 1 year / 3.75M
Montour (24) -- RFA

I think we'll be able to sign Monty to a relatively cheap contract, and I'd rather just trade Silfverberg if his contract demands are too high.
What part of this is good? We add 2.2 million to rakell for a lesser player in RNH, Larsson fills 0 needs for us, we already have lindholm who is much better than him and id argue manson is pretty close to him... not to mention Jacob Larsson/welinski/pettersson all seem NHL ready.... no way we move Montour he is our best offensive threat from blue line.

Rakell/Montour/Silf are basically 3 players that would help boost Edmonton... 2 good top 6 wingers, and a puck moving dmen with a shot.... all theyd have to do after that is find a way to get a guy like Tanev/Hjarlmasson etc and theyd be looking pretty and maybe get rid of lucic.
 

zar

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When I don't even have to think twice, then I know the Ducks would never do this... unless Chia has some compromising pictures of Bob Murray... but let's be honest, even if he did he would know how to negotiate this kind of a deal anyways. :D

Apologies to Duck's posters.
 
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Kalv

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If you kidnap Bob Murrays dog and make threats, he might consider this.

Not even RNH contract is worse, he is not even putting up the points Rakell is. And then you also want to take Montour who is still somewhat cost controlled for us - which is very important for the Ducks.

eh, you get 1/4th a cookie for trying though. No milk
 

Mallard

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Overall those are good pieces from Edmonton but I don't see a 6 player trade between these two teams and especially for players like Rakell who is probably the most untouchable Duck along with Lindholm and Gibson. I wouldn't mind any of those Oilers on the Ducks BUT:

1. Our centre depth is already Getz/Kesler/Henrique so no need for RNH at this point. Maybe if we can't get a deal done with Henrique maybe we look at RNH next offseason?
2. Our top 4 is set with Fowler, Montour, Lindholm, and Manson. Larsson is a guy I would consider if we flipped Fowler for a young scoring winger which I doubt will happen since his extension is kicking in and management loves him. Larsson may be a good fit with Montour but I'm not sure.
3. Yamamoto is a nice prospect that maybe we could trade for now but since our GM decided to keep RC and I'm assuming the core, we need someone more proven for a deep playoff run I think.

Anyways just some thoughts.
 

quacktastic93

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To Edmonton: Rakell, Silfverberg & Montour.

To Anaheim: RNH, Larsson & Yamamoto.



Edmonton get their puckmoving defenceman in Montour, great winger for McDavid in Rakell and a defensive specialist in Silfvermountain.

Anaheim get their #2 center, a top-4 defensive defenceman on a great contract and a high-end forward prospect in Yamamoto.

Would possibly benefit both teams in terms on needs?
 

Paul4587

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Larsson is one of the more overrated dmen in the league, he's at best a number 4 dman and doesn't have the same value as Montour who IMO has already surpassed him.

Rakell is better than RNH.

Silfberberg has more value than Yamamoto.

So Ducks lose in every aspect of the deal.

Counter offer. Fowler ++ for Hall. Oilers get a top pairing dman and Ducks get a top line winger. Oh wait.....
 
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go4hockey

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Larsson is one of the more overrated dmen in the league, he's at best a number 4 dman and doesn't have the same value as Montour who IMO has already surpassed him.

Rakell is better than RNH.

Silfberberg has more value than Yamamoto.

So Ducks lose in every aspect of the deal.

Counter offer. Fowler ++ for Hall. Oilers get a top pairing dman and Ducks get a top line winger. Oh wait.....

Why do you have pluses add to Fowler? Did you forget who the Oilers GM is? With him making the deal it would have ended up being Fowler for Hall +.
 

Paul4587

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Why do you have pluses add to Fowler? Did you forget who the Oilers GM is? With him making the deal it would have ended up being Fowler for Hall +.

I was making fun of the fact Hall wasn’t traded for close to fair value and a realistic offer would be Fowler + for Hall.
 

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