Value of: Alex Edler for a Young Center (22-24)

[elitepete]

As many have stated. Edler can not stay healthy and that is bringing his value down

Dude... you bumped a thread from 2016.

 

[Liferleafer]

Most of my fellow Nuck fans would likely reject the idea, but I'm fairly open to it (although I'd have to think about it more to see if I was fully onboard with said idea).

Horvat-Kadri-Sutter down the middle when the twins retire..........definitely not the greatest thing sinced sliced bread, but you'd essentially have three #2 calibre centers playing down the middle.

Not sure if this is an appropriate comparison or not, but the 1995 New Jersey Devils didn't exactly have superstar centers when they won the cup that year.

Just thinking if the Canucks decided to go this route, and then spent the next 3-4 years hyper-targetting wingers and defensemen in the draft, if they could build a New Jersey-esque 1995 model (i.e. no franchise centers, but extremely good overall depth down the middle, combined with solid wingers, tremendous defense, and a tremendous goalie).

Ideally - the Canucks would be able to draft, sign, or trade for a franchise center, but how realistic is it?

You could think about it for as long as you'd like....but Toronto is never moving Kadri for Edler.

 

[Liferleafer]

Edit....didn't realize this thread was from a year ago.....never mind the post above.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Alex Edler for a Young Center (22-24)

There have obviously been a lot of Alex Edler trade proposals on here within the last year, but I don't have a specific team in mind. Instead, I have a specific position and age range in mind. I am wondering if there are any centers out there, between the 22-24 age range, that would be considered 'equal value' for Alex Edler?

As a Canucks fan, here is how I see things. This is just my opinion, but I think the Canucks' next core has some nice pieces.

Goalie: Demko
Potential #1 defenseman: Juolevi
2nd line center: Horvat
Potential "complementary" 1st line winger: Boeser
1st line defensive pairing: Juolevi-Tanev
2nd line defensive pairing: Hutton-Gudbranson
Other complementary pieces: Baertschi, Virtanen
1-2 of the following panning out: Tryamkin, Pedan, Rodin, Etem, Granlund, Gaunce, wildcard draft picks between 2013-2017 that pan out.

Bottom line - I believe that if the Canucks were to somehow land a very good center, they would have a pretty good young core moving forward.

Yesterday, I contemplated the idea of getting one of Nathan MacKinnon or Steve Stamkos. For obvious reasons however, neither of these options are overly realistic. Many of my fellow Canuck fans are supportive of another 'tank' in order to land Nolan Patrick, but tanking doesn't necessarily guarantee anything.......especially with the lottery system. As poorly as the Canucks did last season, it still wasn't enough to land Auston Matthews or Pierre Luc Dubois.

So here's another idea that I thought of today from a Canucks perspective:

1) Re-sign Dan Hamhuis. That way, when you trade Alex Edler for said *mysterious young 22-24 year old Center of equivalent value*, the depth on the Canucks defense doesn't take too much of a hit, and the young Canucks' defense (and team in general) wouldn't be overwhelmed with responsibilities that they are too green to hand.

2) Trade Alex Edler, and perhaps a draft pick or a prospect for said 22-24 year old Center.


Canucks' "next core" line-up (circa 2020?)

###-Horvat-Boeser
Baertschi-AlexEdlerTrade-###
###-Sutter-Virtanen
###-Cassels-###

Juolevi-Tanev
Hutton-Gudbranson
###-###

Demko
###

I'm not exactly sure what the 22-24 year old Center Alex Edler equivalent is, but if I had to guess, he'd be a top 6 center. I'm cautiously optimistic to say Ryan Nugent Hopkins or Brayden Schenn, but the value likely isn't that high (or is it?).

Anyways - what I'm thinking is this:

-The Canucks pull off that Alex Edler for 22-24 year old Center trade
-The Canucks struggle for a few more years, accumulate picks, and fill in those gaps with said picks and UFA signings.

With Horvat, Sutter, and 'AlexEdlerCenter', the Canucks wouldn't have that top flight franchise center, but they'd have three #2's......and perhaps depth in other areas (wings, defense) via picks can compensate for this.

Thoughts?

What type of center does Alex Edler get you? (in that 22-24 age range). I want to think Ryan Nugent Hopkins, Brayden Schenn, or Sean Couturier, but I'm likely not even close. If that's the case, would adding in a 2nd get the job done?

Honestly, I could see a Edler for RNH trade as reasonably fair.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Don

I personally value a top pairing d-man much more than a 45-50 point center.

Don't worry, the Leafs wouldn't do it anyway.
And why would he be a 45-50 point center (which are #2C numbers btw)?
If you're creating a range for him, it's 40-60 pt center, which is a #2c on the low end and a #1c on the high end.

 

[Nuckles]

Don

Don't worry, the Leafs wouldn't do it anyway.
And why would he be a 45-50 point center (which are #2C numbers btw)?
If you're creating a range for him, it's 40-60 pt center, which is a #2c on the low end and a #1c on the high end.

You quoted a post from June 2016, Kadri had never gotten above 50 points at that time and his numbers had stagnated.

 

[Brock Radunske]

You quoted a post from June 2016, Kadri had never gotten above 50 points at that time and his numbers had stagnated.

Ha! I didn't notice it was necro-bumped.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Dude... you bumped a thread from 2016.

the person who bumped it deleted his post

 

[uncleben]

Thread's over a year old. Only going to lead to confusion.

Locking it.