Alan Adams: Young stars list

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  1. Alfons

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    This list is published in the only Swedish NHL-magazine Pro Hockey:

    1 Crosby
    2 Nash
    3 Ovechkin
    4 Kovalchuk
    5 Gaborik
    6 Spezza
    7 Frolov
    8 Bergeron
    9 Malkin
    10 Ruutu
    11 Parise
    12 Carter
    13 Getzlaf
    14 Vanek
    15 Kessel
    16 Perry
    17 Richards
    18 Olesz
    19 Koivu
    20 O´Sullivan
    21 Kostistyn
    22 Shremp
    23 Grigorenko
    24 Radulov
    25 Staal


    Don´t know how well known or respected he is but I think this list is pretty pro Canadian/ pro North American: How can he have Nash before Ovechkin and Kovalchuk? Since Crosby is first it must be pretty much potential based. And where is Zherdev and Semin? They should be top 10, and Bergeron ahead of Malkin :biglaugh:

    Comments?
     
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    Yep. Very NA biased. But there are a lot of things wrong with the list. Staal at 25? Come on.
     
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    is this just forwards? no D or goalies?
     
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    Seems like a good list to me. What is wrong with Nash ahead of AO or Kovalchuk. Kovalchuk will be great and is rated top 5!!, but you tell me when AO wins a Richard trophy at 20. Nash DID IT already. Seems like a top end prospect to me. I'd probably even switch up AO and Kovy.

    As for the NA, Euro discrepency, did you not watch the last watch the last WJC and the draft that just past? All involving top prospects and pretty much NA domminated.


    I notice an absence of defense on the list. Phaneuf? Suter? Barker?
     
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    yeah, for example Radulov seems a bit misplaced and Mikko Koivu perhaps a bit high?
     
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    This is his lists for D and G

    1 Phaneuf
    2 Bouwmeester
    3 Pitkänen
    4 Suter
    5 Daley
    6 Coburn
    7 N. Kronwall
    8 Smid
    9 Barker
    10 Meszaros
    11 Tyutin
    12 Babchuk
    13 Barinka

    1 Lehtonen
    2 Fleury
    3 Lundqvist
    4 Montoya
    5 Schwarz
     
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    Nash is very good and should be high, just not abovey Kovalchuk who was Second overall last season. Wait untill Nash will do that. (Kovalchuk did that as a 20 year old with NO suport.
     
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    Again, decent rankings, but it seems a little Euro biased to me :cry: :cry:

    :biglaugh: :sarcasm:
     
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    I'm very surprised Toivonen isn't on the goalies list. He's better than Fleury IMO.
     
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    Montoya at 4... Schwarz at 5? :biglaugh:
     
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    Let me guess, you think Dubnyk should be there?
     
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    Malkin should be at #5. To have him at 9 is a joke.
     
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    lol

    no, but I'd rather have Ward, Miller,Toivonen and probably a few more I've forgotten about.
     
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    I'm cool with that, and I agree. I was suprised that Ward wasn't there in the first place.
     
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    Awful rankings, in particular:

    -Kovalchuk behind anyone. He should be #2 at the absolute lowest.
    -Pitkanen and Bouwmeester below Phaneuf, and Daley at #5.
    -Toivonen not on the goalies list while Montoya and Schwarz are.
     
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    Ruutu is a better young player then Spezza, Berg, and Frolov
     
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    @#$% how many Ruutu and Frolov debates have the been get over it there have been like 10 polls and different things and Frolov won most everything
     
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    Kovalchuk should be 1st without question. I could forgive 2nd but 5th takes away all credibility from the list.

    Why are guys who havent proven anything ranked ahead of semi established stars like Frolov and Ruutu?

    Id say these lists are pretty terrible, the Zherdev ommission is more proof. It looks like an HF poster made it :sarcasm:
     
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    Staal at #25... thats the first thing I saw :biglaugh:
     
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    Oh man I didn't even notice that. What exactly have:

    11 Parise
    12 Carter
    13 Getzlaf
    14 Vanek
    15 Kessel
    16 Perry
    17 Richards
    18 Olesz
    19 Koivu
    20 O´Sullivan
    21 Kostistyn
    22 Shremp
    23 Grigorenko
    24 Radulov

    done to rank ahead of Staal? Kessel I can maybe see if they are projecting (and Frolik should be on the list if Kessel is there) but the others? I guess this is another one of those lists where flashy numbers in junior and at the WJCs are more important than consistently good under the radar play in the NHL and AHL.

    The absences of Zherdev, Horton, and Michalek are also total nonsense, among others.
     
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    Ruutu is better than Spezza? What?

    Weird rankings though. Kovalchuk should be #1 or 2.
     
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    I don't see how Ryan Malone is not on this list.
     
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    I think most people would take Ruutu above Spezza.
     
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    I think it's a pretty close call. Suffice to say, there are a LOT of things to trash about this list before arguing about which one of Ruutu and Spezza should be above the other.
     
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    Chekc out the defense list... its laughable.


    I am a huge hawk fan

    But im sure Slaty would also agree with me in saying "Why is barinka #13 on young d? he has played one NHL game when he was 18?"


    Babchuck I can see at 12 and Barker also at #9 since he ahsnt played yet. But Seabrook should be ahead of Babchuck and maybe Barker but for sure Barinka. This list is such a joke.



    Ryan Malone poster: Malone isnt exactly "young" he shouldnt be among "young guns". Plus he isnt better then most of thse guys.
     
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